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Woo hoo!

I've got my own link in the TRON-Sector Image Gallery Fan Art listing!

Thanks, DaveTRON - mighty cool of ya!

I actually laughed out loud when I saw one of the three images you posted there.



"Todd In The Game" is actually just a single frame from a video project I've been sculpting on and off for several months now. I forgot I had posted that image in an unrelated thread a while back.

But that's cool - because Todd is INDEED in the game for a short sequence in the video. In the game OLD SCHOOL style, in my first ever personal light cycle game. My more than 20-year-old, vintage, still got it, STILL PLAY IT, Tomytronic TRON hand held game! I spent many, MANY hours on that wonderful gem over the years!



DaveTRON - I want to say that you've been doing an excellent job keeping TRON-Sector lit up with energy and fun. The recent push of TRON Fan Art additions is great! There truly is no greater source of TRON on the internet than TRON-Sector! Keep loading them in and lighting this place up!

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Carl,

Post it all. We have plenty of room, and we all enjoy seeing the progressions.

It's not just the finished product that fires us TRON fans, it's how we go there too.

wwwmwww Wrote:...Should I be posting test renders? I sort of feel like I'm taking up more then my share as it is. Carl

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DaveTRON Wrote:Carl, Post it all. We have plenty of room, and we all enjoy seeing the progressions. It's not just the finished product that fires us TRON fans, it's how we go there too.

Well you asked for it. I'll post more of it. In the process of making a model I make 100's of test renders so I really couldn't post all that. Here is my latest test.



In my first test render I actually modeled my tank projectile after this . I then went back to my DVD's and went frame-by-frame through every tank shot in the film and remodeled it. Here is the drawing I made before I put it into POV-Ray.



Again... this is just a test. I'm still making some changes and the AA isn't set very high on this render. Let me know what you think. I'm always happy for feedback... both good and bad.

Enjoy,
Carl

tron_man666 Wrote:hi every one i am new to this tron sector thing i am fron the uk and i can not wait till tron 2.0 killer app on friday do any of you have it yet plus how do you get them cool pics on the side of you name when you put a thread in plus here is a bit of tron work i fond on the net p.s do any of you on xbox live and if so can you send it to me on tron_man666@hotmail.com thank you all for your time

Greetings, tron_man666 and welcome to TRON-Sector

If you're looking to chat about TRON Killer App for the XBox, try these threads:

Official TRON Killer App for XBox thread:
http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=top&id=294311
TRON-Sector multi-player game forum:
http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?do=frm&id=211

TheReelTodd Wrote: Hey - looking good, Carl!

Thanks.

TheReelTodd Wrote: The "muzzle flash" looks cool too... but I keep asking myself if there would be such a thing as a muzzle flash (of the traditional kind) from projectiles fired by... well, computer tanks, IN the digital world.

Well there is a flash seen in the movie. It appears to be just a white cutout drawn in the plane defined by the projectiles motion and up. I wanted mine to make use of the 3 vents you see on each side of the cannon. There are colored light sources inside the cannon and some white media outside the cannon to scatter the light that makes it out those vents and the barrel. I wanted to give those vents an obvious use, i.e. give them a reason for being there.

TheReelTodd Wrote: In terms of taking artistic and creative liberties and having fun - the muzzle flash looks really cool. I'd kind of like to see it animated in fact.

I'm working on that. And the recoil action of the cannon.

TheReelTodd Wrote: But what would the result be of firing these blip-like projectiles. If memory serves, there's just a simple (consistent with the imagery) flash-like pattern when they fire in the film, right? It's similar to the computery looking impact flashes. That kind of effect was cool and very fitting because of the way the whole digital world (and physics there of) was interpreted in the film.

Well the leading arrow of my projectile does have a light source inside it. If fired down a dark alley it will light up its surroundings as it moves.

TheReelTodd Wrote: One of the things in the film that kind of bothered me about the tank projectiles though, was the fact that they arced when fired and seemed to be affected by digital gravity? Even in 1982, I remember thinking that these things should have fired in perfect straight lines, and not affected by digital gravity because their projectiles were energy projectiles (in my mind anyway). One very minor digital interpretation in the film that I thought wasn't done quite right. Of course, one could argue that these tanks were programmed to simulate operation in the real world so to say, and therefore digital gravity was programmed in to their projectile routines. Interesting stuff to ponder... for a TRON nerd like myself!

Well if they just traveled in strait lines the light cycles wouldn't have too much to fear. They are much shorter then the height of the cannon the projectile is fired from. What bothered me more was how you never saw the recoil action from an angle that showed the top of the tank. I don't think they modeled that movement but instead move the whole turret backwards. I'll try to fix that. But an even bigger problem to me was the fact that I see no easy way to change the elevation of the cannon. How did they fire these projectiles up at the recognizers for example when the barrel is always level with the ground. And even when firing at the light cycles the projectiles look like they go up before they come down. Even that I don't see a good way to model unless I take far more creative liberties then I have already.

And while I'm at it one other thing that bothers me is how the cannon intersects that arrow over the red dome while it rotates. This is a problem with both my model and the one seen in the movie. I have a picture in the gallery that shows this I think.

Carl

TheReelTodd Wrote: You know - we could pick this apart even more and ask another question: If these tanks were computerized tanks in a digital world, run by programs - why could they not properly and correctly calculate the proper distance, rate of travel, arc, where the target would be when the projectile hit, etc.? Why did they need to fire multiple times? Of course, the simple answer is the story would have suffered for it, and the scene would not have been as cool. But I've pondered that one many times as well (always ending up on the logical story couldn't have it that way thing).

This question never bothered me. Here's why. I view the time experienced by a program in the computer world to be much different then our time here in the real world. One second of real time is probably only one clock cycle in the computer world. The time needed to make that accurate calculation is probably on the order of minutes to hours as experienced by the program. He (the program) doesn't have that much time before he takes a shot so he's just making his best guesses. Programs obviously develop skill over time. Look at the light cycle races... they haven't all planned out their paths before the game even starts. Its a by the seat of the pants sort of thing. I take it that the same applies to firing the tank cannon. This is supported by how little time passed in the real world while Flynn was inside the computer for a couple days.

TheReelTodd Wrote: I'm sure you've pondered every possible scenario and are now just wondering which one to attack

Yes, I even made one test render of one of my ideas yesterday in fact. I'll just say it sure looked worse on screen then I thought it would. You know the large scaled sphere at the turret. My first thought was to make that a perfect sphere. This would raise the cannon a fair bit and everything could pivot on that sphere like it was a big ball and socket joint. This even seemed to fit my view of the interior of the tank as I think I've seen drawings that show the programs sit in an area that is a large sphere.

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Great tank image Carl. Love your images.

Yeah the sphere is an internal Gyro system. Brilliant design idea from Syd. The image below shows the gyo tilted.



The central axis of the cannon wouldn't need to be tilted much if you think about it, since the ends would rise or lower more than the central axis when tilted. I wonder if that is what Syd actually had in mind since in that side view, there is a little slit space between the dome of the cannon and the circular frame that connects to the tank body. That slit has enough space to allow the dome section to tilt along with the cannon. The cgi tanks don't have that slit, but are directly connected to the circular connection piece.



Also in the concept image above (bottom tank sketch), the cannon is attached to the dome where as the cgi tank cannon is connected to the both the dome and circle frame connection of the tank (which makes it only able to pivit left and right) That might be your awsner.

I hope that made sense.
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