Tronflame
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Posts: 0 | Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 5:08 AM
Who thinks there should be more fire in this already great film
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Plazma
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 5:10 AM
I agree my good fellow
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The Tweaker
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on Monday, June, 07, 2004 10:03 AM
 ...how can there be fire inside a computer? You've got corruption... and running from the reformat on the lab server was a lot like escaping from a burning building... but how can you actually have fire in the Tron universe?
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Tronflame
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on Monday, June, 07, 2004 10:22 AM
The flames are good, give in to the inferno
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Plazma
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 10:24 AM
Fire and blaze, pyre and combustion
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 11:58 AM
Tweaker,
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Tronflame
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 12:34 PM
I apologise sincerely for any trouble I may have caused. I agree that you should ignore this post.
I must point out that Plazma and I are two different guys we just use the same computer.
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Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 12:45 PM
Still rather curious though. Obviously the namesake suggests that TronFLAME only came here to talk about fire (and or start a FLAME war).
But I also find it interesting that the other name plasma, in scientific circles unless you're talking about blood, fire and plasma both pretty much do the same thing... incinerate.
EDIT:
However, Tweaker, it does bring up an interesting question.. how do real-world accidents affect the computer world. Like what if the real-world computer caught on fire - what would the programs be seeing.
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,314 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 1:14 PM
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harpo989
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on Monday, June, 07, 2004 1:41 PM
well, reformatting simply erases a hard drive, but leaves it useable. however, actually MELTING a hard drive would be destroying it, but in theory small bits of data ould still exist. thus melting a hard drive would probably be similar to transforming the entire world into a liquid, programs and data streaming apart like water. pretty sick and morbid if you think about it.
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kmon
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Posts: 191 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 7:21 PM
ah but damaing a hard drive is much more complex then that. Programs are stored under the rules of a file system (fat, fat32, ntfs, etc). Each program is stored in different parts or sectors (sector size depends on file format). The sectors are always but right by each other (fragmentation). So physically damaing one area or group of sectors might not destroy an entire program or group of programs (just like the corruption). Inside the digital world, I think it would be a like a tearing effect. Either way, the computer would need to be on to experiance it 'first hand'. A hard drive with no power would have no program(s) active on it...
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Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Re: Fire
on Monday, June, 07, 2004 9:48 PM
I think though that locations in the digital realm don't necessarily reflect how computers seem to work to us. In 2.0, you come across 'sleepng' programs, which I would have to view as being inactive, until you wake them up to go do their thing. From a completely scientific standpoint, this wouldn't work, because activating a program involves transferring it from the harddrive to active memory (RAM).. two entirely different parts of a physical computer. Yet when you awaken a program, it doesn't suddenly get teleported away - it's still right there in front of you, only now it's awake.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill online
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The Tweaker
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 2:08 AM
DaveTron: IP's? I'm guessing this is an Admin-only feature, as I don't see it.
Yes, Tron romaticises and simplifies the computer world a little to make it easier for us to understand. I would think, though, that whatever destructive effect you use (flame, hammer, unfastening the case and punching holes in the poor HD with a chisel) the effect would be quite brief, because the drive would cease to operate within seconds.
| Jet: I'll never drop a laptop again! |
 Yep, that was a good quote.
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cirlin
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Posts: 382 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 2:19 AM
i've always imagined that their world is as different from our view of computers as our view of the world is from what it's actually made up of (multiple dimensions, quantum interactions, super strings [maybe]...)
So, in the same way that we experiance all the billions of things happening at a micro-microscopic level as a certain kind of reality, all the things going on inside a computer sort of meld together to create a certain kind of reality or the characters.
It's a very fuzzy, open ended idea, but that's what makes it great. You can explain just about any logical problem in the story with it. 
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kmon
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Posts: 191 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 11:37 AM
I believe you could come across 'sleeping programs'. What about programs at idle, they are running but aren’t doing anything or....sleeping. Once you interact with them they are forced to become active or 'wake up'. It’s difficult to try and define a physical location in a digital world, their really aren’t any. As a program you'd be using cpu cycles, interfacing with the bus(s), ram, sometimes hard drive(s) (all with the help of other programs). You can wave at someone across the digital room just like I’m babbling at you across thousands of miles (scary thought). Either way its definitly a great place to create stories in, great material to work with.
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Tronflame
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 12:23 PM
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Tron Fanatic
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Posts: 1,461 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 1:18 PM
| The Tweaker Wrote:...because the drive would cease to operate within seconds. |
I have a feeling that it wouldn't be quite so quick and painless a death on the other side though. A lot more time seems to pass by in the digital world than it does in the real world and it would need to. When we call up a program to do something, we don't have to sit around for while the program runs to the nearest I/O port to recieve the message. For us the process happens in the blink of an eye but for them carrying out the assignment might appear to take all day. So what is a few seconds for us could be a very long time for a program.
| Kmon Wrote:I believe you could come across 'sleeping programs'. What about programs at idle, they are running but aren’t doing anything or....sleeping. |
I think we got our answer to that in 2.0. My guess is the idle (but not sleeping) programs are kicking back and enjoying their time off-duty. I don't think the programs hanging out in the progress bar were carrying out any orders at the time, except for the compiler and it's hard to be sure if even the compiler & associated programs were carrying out User orders or just doing their own thing for the heck of it.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion
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Kamui
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Posts: 0 | Re: Fire
on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 3:39 PM
Tron Fanatic Wrote:| The Tweaker Wrote:...because the drive would cease to operate within seconds. |
I have a feeling that it wouldn't be quite so quick and painless a death on the other side though. A lot more time seems to pass by in the digital world than it does in the real world and it would need to. When we call up a program to do something, we don't have to sit around for while the program runs to the nearest I/O port to recieve the message. For us the process happens in the blink of an eye but for them carrying out the assignment might appear to take all day. So what is a few seconds for us could be a very long time for a program. |
I keep thinking the same sorts of things too. That's why when I specify a time period when RP, I don't give an actual time or date for that matter. I suspect that a second to us would be like an hour to them.
So it would be a slow and painful demise for the programs on that HD if you did attempt to destroy it.
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on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 4:00 PM
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Kamui
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on Tuesday, June, 08, 2004 5:50 PM
Somehow, it seems very twisted in a way.
*Glances at her comp*
I don't think I'll look at it the same way again too soon....
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