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Darksaber7
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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 3:42 PM
Ok. Alot of the people who use these boards seem to be very educated about computers and tech stuff (Geeks ). Please bear in mind that, try as I might, I'm not. I'm learning, but I've got a long way to go...

So here's my question: I recently learned that you can record old cassette tapes to your hard drive through your sound card, then convert (if needed) and burn them to a cd. I found some info on how to do it on the web, but am still unsure of some things.
My sound card came in my HP Pavillion 521n, and it's a VIA AC'97 Audio Controller (WDM). Looking at the back of my pc, it has a "line in" jack right below the speaker out. It looks like a 1/8 headphone jack would look.
One of the methods I saw somewhere said you could run a line from the headphone jack on the back of your tape player, into your sound card, and then use a recording program to record the sound. Would this work? Is there a "wire" you can buy that has the 1/8 type plug on both ends? Am I in way over my head?

I know I will prob. have to do some messing to get sound levels right, but I just want to make sure I am on the right track before I go plugging stuff into my pc...

I have alot of books on cassette that are starting to degrade pretty badly, and I would love to be able to get them on to CD before they are gone... I have found a company that will do the transfer, but they want $25+ each to do it, plus shipping. I have too many I want done to pay that.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated



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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 4:06 PM
Yes you can do it this way. If your going to be using a line in or the plug for the microphone to record it to your computer. Just make sure when you buy the cable you get the right one. If its 1/8 plug that goes into the plug in the back of the computer at one end. Then all you really need to know is at the other end as well if its coming for another 1/8 plug or if you need RCA type of connections. a modular way of doing it with todays technology of parts like dvd, vcr to the tv.) You should be able to record it onto your computer and burn them onto your blank cds for personal listening and not for distribution purpose.


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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 4:15 PM
Thanks, Compucore. I read that if you use the actual speaker out on your tape player / radio, you could damage your pc. To go from the headphone jack to my pc I would need a line with a 1/8" stereo plug on both ends.

I'll give it a shot after I find the wire and report back on my progress ( or lack of! ).

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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 4:38 PM
If memory serves me correctly. ever since the original Soublaster cards. (The good old ISA cards when they came out that were like 3/4 cards size.) THere should be an Aux in which is like having a cd hooked up in that Its meant to take the kind of sound from a cd player. I know my current soundblase has that feature in the PCI format here as well. If you plug it into that. You should be fine. Check with the model of sound card that is built into your machine. (I.E. its basically on the motherboard itself built into it.) Or if its an actualy seperate sound card that takes up one of the PCI Slots in the computer.

I'm just trying to play it safe here with you as well. to make sure that you don't breask something on your computer here. And that it'll still be fiunctioning after you do your thing with saving the files..




Darksaber7 Wrote:Thanks, Compucore. I read that if you use the actual speaker out on your tape player / radio, you could damage your pc. To go from the headphone jack to my pc I would need a line with a 1/8" stereo plug on both ends.

I'll give it a shot after I find the wire and report back on my progress ( or lack of! ).

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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 6:23 PM
Yeah, I hoped when I looked at the back of my pc I would see little red and white inputs for the rca type of cables, but no luck...
I think I found what I need, though. It's a simple cable with a 1/8" stereo plug (male) on both ends. I would post a pic, but seems AOL is having trouble (I can't access my home page and all my images are an X right now...).


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on Tuesday, February, 10, 2004 6:43 PM
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on Wednesday, February, 11, 2004 11:43 AM
One of those will work. Radioshack has them, as will most electronic stores. What program and format are you recording too? I would go ahead and convert them into mp3s, either VBR or 160 CBR. Those options should be in whatever converting program you use. 160 might be a bit over kill for a tape, its almost cd quality. However, if you want them to play in most cd players, you'll need to leave them as wave files. Good luck with that project, I'm working through my dads lp collection. Only 6 orange crates to go!


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on Wednesday, February, 11, 2004 11:48 AM
Yes that will do for connecting the two together. and do the transfer and converting it to MP3's. .




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Darksaber7
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on Wednesday, February, 11, 2004 12:37 PM
I'm going to try to find a free recording program, I've seen several on the net.

I may already have something that will work... I know WM9 won't (i don't think). I also use real player (prob. won't work) and music match jukebox (I think it has a record option, but I'm not sure...). I have winamp, but it's not installed. I could always load it up if it would work.

Problem with these is, they are all media players. If any have recording, it's prob. not very good.

Of course, I have the sound recorder that comes with XP, but I've never used it much. It has a time limit, no?

My best bet might be to find a dedicated recording program and use it.

I have a few different programs I use for conversion, but dBpowerAMP is my favorite, so I'll prob. use it to make them wave files if needed. I do most of my burning out of WM9, and it converts files to WMA anyway. But if they aren't recorded correctly before it converts them,the cd won't play.

No big deal. Once I get the set up right, I can mess with recording and conversion until I figure it out. But if anyone want's to recommend a good (free) recording program I can download, I'm always open to suggestions!

Here's a quick list of my audio tools, in case it helps (or if I already have what I need and just don't realize it!);

Cdex151- CD extractor / wave mp3 converter
Gap123- game music extractor
WavEdit- wav file editor
AldosWave edit- umm...wave editor
Mp3 splitter/joiner- mp3 editor
Sound recorder- windows recording program
dBpowerAMP- all format sound file converter

And my media players are listed above.


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Darksaber7
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on Wednesday, February, 11, 2004 3:10 PM
Ok, ignore that whole last post !

Musicmatch did the trick! Just had to get the recording properties set up right.

At first, the sound quality was pretty bad. Prob. due to the tapes themselves. For some reason though, converting them to .wma with dBpowerAMP "cleans" them up a little. Really, I think it just looses some of the bass, but that's good with the way the tapes sound.

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