And since you mentioned Amiga 500 and Commodore 64, which were also two of my favorites, I figured I'd give you some good links to ponder...

For Amiga 500 emulation, I've found WinUAE to be an excellent emulation program. For Commodore 64, I've found CCS64 to be excellent. Both pretty much have perfect, or dang-near perfect emulation of their respective system. I honestly can't tell any difference between how the games run in these emulators versus the actual systems. (I tried these emulators 5 years ago, and there were many issues with them. The games just didn't feel like they did when I used to play them on the respective systems. I wasn't happy, so I gave up. Now, 5 years later, I tried again a few weeks ago and was very pleasantly surprised at their abilities to accurately run the games.)

Here are my recommendations...

Amiga 500:* WinUAE (emulator) - http://www.winuae.net/* But you'll also need to buy a Kickstart ROM file for it to work, and Amiga has a very tight grip on the copyrighted distribution of it. See here for more information: http://www.amigaforever.com/.
* You need ROMs (the games) to play. I can't link to any ROM sites, however, due to legal reasons. (Not supposed to link to both ROM and Emulator info from the same page/site, due to possible piracy concerns. You need to own the original game before you can download the ROM.). Here is an exception though -- Cinemaware actually allows people to download their classic games: http://www.cinemaware.com/vault.asp?vault=games. For example, click "Defender of the Crown", then click Amiga Disk Image on the left. You need to register on their site first.

Commodore 64:* CCS64 (emulator): http://www.computerbrains.com/ccs64/* Again, you'll need ROMs (games).

And, of course, it's hard to play classic games with just the keyboard and mouse. This adapter would apparently let you plug an Atari 2600 style joystick (which Amiga and C64 used) into your PC's USB port. So I plan to get one of these (I don't have one yet): http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=267. There's a review that mentions it works fine with games on CCS64 and WinUAE.

As far as DOS goes, I do miss it. When I was a kid, a classmate and I programmed little games in BASIC using the school's TRS-80s. I miss those computers! It was about 1981 or 1982'ish.

PS: There are also Atari 2600 emulators, etc. I'm so thankful emulators have been created.

I always liked Frodo (C-64 Emu) since it ran in a little window and would pause when you clicked off of it. That way I could run it at work and quickly click off of it if the boss man came around.

My old PC died in DOS mode format. Interesting how some java apps (like Blender 3D) still need the command prompt to come up to run.

DOS isn't toally dead.

It's funny, when I started working for AOL back in 1995 they still supported the DOS version. Ten years is a long time, and things sure have changed since then.

Cool thread. I used to play several DOS games, and tried programming in ascii long ago, but never got into it cuz I was 12. Then, I didn't have the disk storage to play the big games, but nonetheless, great times!

I miss DOS!

I grew up using DOS, seeing as Windows was always too finicky about playing my favorite games (that is, DOS games) and I programmed (lightly, of course) in GW BASIC.

Oh, man... Then, of course, Jedi Knight released and I stopped using DOS altogether. But I'll have to check into those emulators and see what I can do... thanks, guys.

Kamui, I think Windows 2000 Pro Family Server and Advanced server has it. I have two personal copies od that and it does both very nicely when I had them running over here on my other machines. I stuck with windows 2000 pro over here since it was to my liking over here for great stabikity over all the others so far for the windows environemnts anyways. But since I am using over here Ubuntu linux. I am getting use to that which has the terminal version of Dos but its more of a command line environnment that is not like DOS completely over here.

Kamui WroteOS is not dead yet. We us it all the time in networking over here. It's reliable and quite fast for us. It really can get you out of trouble if you know what you're doing. A lot of people (Believe it or not) still use Windows 2000 which still has DOS support and still run servers on this (I think it was because you can switch from being a client to server and back again in 2000..... or was it Windows 98...?) XP really does suck for DOS but it doens't mean it can't be used. Sure it can, it's just not nearly as well supported. So me missing DOS? Not really. I see it every Wensday when we're doing server stuff (Even with XP)! ^^ ~Kamui.EXE

Auric Wrote:You can also use Connectix (now Microsofts) Virtual PC It allows you yo run ANYTHING from DOS on up. I have Virtual PCs for Dos 6.22, Windows 3.11, 95, etc. I have a special Dos PC for just gaming (gotta love jamming on F-19 Stealth Fighter!)

Auric, that Virtual PC looks great!

I do have a copy of MS-DOS 6.22, so with Virtual PC I can install it on a virtual drive, and any DOS game I install on that virtual drive will act like it's on a pure DOS box?

How does video and sound support work? Does it emulate SoundBlaster in DOS?

Also, if I installed Windows 95, would I be working with DirectX 5 (for example) so I'd be able to play old Windows games that don't play well or at all on Win XP?

Man, if that's the case, I'm dying to play Archimedean Dynasty, Metaltech: Battledrome, Metaltech: Earthsiege, Earthsiege II, and a few other DOS-based games I've got. I might also pick up a copy of Win 95 to play old Windows games.

Compucore Wrote:Hey Kamui, Yes Xbox does run off of windows 2000. Its what they call the kernel in simple terms and not to get into the complexity of things too. Its been stripped down of everything else that it does not need for the game and runs well. and since the Xbox 360 is using a special processor that has 3 cpu core each of the cores are running at 3.2 GHZ speed. I do not rmemeber the exact specs of that part. Maybe someone can confirm this to make sure. I remember glimpsing through the specs a while ago. Kamui Wrote: Compucore Wrote:Kamui, I think Windows 2000 Pro Family Server and Advanced server has it. I have two personal copies od that and it does both very nicely when I had them running over here on my other machines. I stuck with windows 2000 pro over here since it was to my liking over here for great stabikity over all the others so far for the windows environemnts anyways. Kamui WroteOS is not dead yet. We us it all the time in networking over here. It's reliable and quite fast for us. It really can get you out of trouble if you know what you're doing. A lot of people (Believe it or not) still use Windows 2000 which still has DOS support and still run servers on this (I think it was because you can switch from being a client to server and back again in 2000..... or was it Windows 98...?) XP really does suck for DOS but it doens't mean it can't be used. Sure it can, it's just not nearly as well supported. So me missing DOS? Not really. I see it every Wensday when we're doing server stuff (Even with XP)! ^^ ~Kamui.EXE Thought it was Windows 2000 and I do recall it being quite stable. Actually, random fact: Xbox runs on a modified Windows 2000 platform. ~Kamui.EXE

I'm going to take a wild guess here, but maybe another version of the Windows 2000 OS might be used for the Xbox 360? It seems plausible for me.

~Kamui.EXE

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C: Autoexec.bat

C: Autoexec.bat fly

C: Autoexec.bat droppings

C: Autoexec.bat-mo-bil

"Holy Autoexec.bat droppings", says Config.sys

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Well we shall see when it comes out when they start makingthe hacks for it. It is just a matter of time for it.

kmon Wrote:The 360 is running on a modified win 2k core as well, thats confirmed. We have no idea how 'modified' it is...have been bugging my buddies in the xbox division for a while about this. Its rumored to have .NET framework, either way you should be able to interact it with the 360 over the network. The 360 can also read network drives and play content (movies, music). I'm really interested to see how the hacks go for this system. Remeber its power pc architecture, so you can't just excute random bits of x86 code on it. You will have to recomplie for the new architecture.

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