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SiddyTron
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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 4:32 PM
personally i think the xbox would be able to handle tron 2.0 just fine, but not gc or ps2. unfortunately with all fps on consoles, the mouse and keyboard controls are switched over to a game pad and that can be VERY tedious. i'm also a huge fan of the grand theft auto games and i don't even attempt playing them on the ps2 anymore. i think it's time for consoles to revamp their controls....

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 4:34 PM
Actually to configure a video game would take a hella lot more configuring and setup to connect to a server than a PC.

And yes, in the end, would not do as well on a console. But the idea would be interesting to see from the inside. Like I said, an XBox would look familiar wnough, but a GameCube would look very different, from a program's point of view.


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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 4:38 PM
Stevedroid Wrote:Heh, I could've sworn he said 'game console', but then again it has been a while since I played the game.

At any rate the whole "Tron doesn't belong on consoles because it's set in a PC world" argument is juvenile (please don't take any offense as none is intended). The purpose of a game is to provide an enjoyable experience to as many people as possible; not so you have ammo in your pissing contest of why a PC is a better gaming platform than a console.

I agree that the game will always be best on PC, but that doens't mean it shouldn't be produced for people who are not wealthy or tech saavy enough to have a decent gaming rig. Console owners have just as much right to enjoy this spectacular game as any of us. The more people who buy and play the game, the better chances are that we will continue to see development of the franchise.

Very well said!

As I said before, I think a console port would be great! The more people who get to play Tron, the more people get to love Tron. And the more people who love Tron, the more likely that Disney will make the sequel.


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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 6:53 PM
SiddyTron Wroteersonally i think the xbox would be able to handle tron 2.0 just fine, but not gc or ps2. unfortunately with all fps on consoles, the mouse and keyboard controls are switched over to a game pad and that can be VERY tedious. i'm also a huge fan of the grand theft auto games and i don't even attempt playing them on the ps2 anymore. i think it's time for consoles to revamp their controls....
I agree. Two game genres which shouldn't be on consoles of any kind, IMO:
- FPS games
- RTS games (...like AvP: Extinction, which isn't being released on the PC. What the hell are they thinking?)

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 9:04 PM
I have no idea how well a FPS game works on a console, but I know FPS games have waaaaaaaaay too many keys that you need to bind to the keyboard, so on a console, that is really very awkard.

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Thursday, August, 28, 2003 9:52 PM
KiaPurity Wrote:I have no idea how well a FPS game works on a console, but I know FPS games have waaaaaaaaay too many keys that you need to bind to the keyboard, so on a console, that is really very awkard.
Yeah, the consoles have to "dumb down" most of the finer controls used in FPS games on the PC. Also, you have no mouse-look on the console, which is pretty integral to FPS games (in my opinion).

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 12:33 AM


I have nothing against putting on a console . . . they can go ahead and do it. If it helps more people discover , so much the better.

It just won't be as good an experience, that's all. You certainly won't see me playing it. The PC version can and will always be superior.

Of course, that's why the devs like to throw new content into console ports, in order to encourage PC gamers to check out the console version. Bleh.

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 2:05 AM
There are two issues here. TRON as a game on the consoles, and TRON as a concept in a console world.

The former I will not discuss because there is nothing to discuss. Y'all made up 22+ posts based on wishful thinking from a mistaken web page entry. Kind of funny.

As for the latter, why would it be so foreign to TRON to have parts of it take place in a console system? Consoles are a type of computer. Programs are written to run on consoles. It would be a different world than in the PC is all. I think you sell the concept of TRON too short. TRON is inside of all of our computerized gizmos.

Imagine being able to venture through that world freely? Where can you go? I'd like to see the programs that live in an X-Box. Are they green? Smaller? Big and fat like their controller?

Think about emulators, programs that allow 32 bit systems to run old 8-bit programs. Taking a program from your old NES and allowing it to run in your fancy high end PC.

What are the denizens of a Mac like? I won't share what I think as I might start a riot! I am not a fan of Macs myself.

TRON is so much more than PCs, the first movie shows that with the video arcade sequence. TRON was in those arcade machines too!

Think big when you think TRON! Just my .02.

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 2:25 AM
Well... if Tron2.0 featured you going inside a game system (which I think would have been pretty neat), then I would have seen that as justification for releasing the game on console systems.
Since this didn't happen, however, and since Tron has always been shown as being specific and exclusive to "the world inside the COMPUTER", I can't see releasing Tron2.0 on the console as a logical move. That's just me, though.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 12:16 PM
Well that's what I said! Why not? Can you imagine the programs in a Game Cube looking like neon samurai? That would be kewel!


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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 1:23 PM
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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 10:06 PM
Separate the issues. I agree TRON on a console system would need to be "dumbed down" a bit to be playable. if it happens, we will see what is done about that.

As for going into console systems as part of the world, what do you think a console system is? It's a computer too. We are not being unfaithful to the world inside the computer if where we are going has a computer in it, and every game console ever made is a smaller version of the PCs and Mainframes of TRON.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 10:43 PM
DaveTRON Wrote:Separate the issues. I agree TRON on a console system would need to be "dumbed down" a bit to be playable. if it happens, we will see what is done about that.

As for going into console systems as part of the world, what do you think a console system is? It's a computer too. We are not being unfaithful to the world inside the computer if where we are going has a computer in it, and every game console ever made is a smaller version of the PCs and Mainframes of TRON.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that by releasing the game to players on consoles (TOTALLY separate concept from actually having Jet or whoever go inside a console system *in-game*) is being "unfaithful" to the original concept of 'Tron', which has been strictly computers.
See what I mean?

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Saturday, August, 30, 2003 11:23 PM
I see what you mean, but I don't agree it is unfaitful becasue the stand up arcade machines portrayed in the movie are the precursors of console systems today. They were part of it then and they are part of it now.


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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Sunday, August, 31, 2003 12:09 AM
I would agree with you on that DaveTron. In essence the ARcade games of of years gone by up until today are basically Console games. No matter how you program it. Fine the games of yester years had really small memory and not that much room to make a complete game that would fit onto cd-roms or dvd of today. The only thing that is different between the consoles that you have at home whether its a NES, SNES, PS1,PS2, cube and the arcade games is the Arcade games only play one tyope of game. Whiell the home consoles play a variety of games that are either programmed onto removable cartirdges in varing size or use play cd-roms that it has to read off of in order to be played.



DaveTRON Wrote:I see what you mean, but I don't agree it is unfaitful becasue the stand up arcade machines portrayed in the movie are the precursors of console systems today. They were part of it then and they are part of it now.


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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Sunday, August, 31, 2003 12:32 AM
DaveTRON Wrote:I see what you mean, but I don't agree it is unfaitful becasue the stand up arcade machines portrayed in the movie are the precursors of console systems today. They were part of it then and they are part of it now.
I understand what you're saying, but I still don't agree. We'll just have to agree to disagree, I suppose.

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Sunday, August, 31, 2003 1:24 AM
Syntax Wrote: Tron has always been shown as being specific and exclusive to "the world inside the COMPUTER", I can't see releasing Tron2.0 on the console as a logical move. That's just me, though.

Ummm...just out of curiosity..what do you think is inside a game console? A hamster on a wheel? Some sort of rubber band mechanism???

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Sunday, August, 31, 2003 1:46 AM
To quote MCP, "I wonder how you'd like working in a Pocket Calculator?" (Or something like that) My only question is, how was he going to get him into one?

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Re: Erm. Something odd I noticed...

on Sunday, August, 31, 2003 1:54 AM
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Syntax Wrote: Tron has always been shown as being specific and exclusive to "the world inside the COMPUTER", I can't see releasing Tron2.0 on the console as a logical move. That's just me, though.

Ummm...just out of curiosity..what do you think is inside a game console? A hamster on a wheel? Some sort of rubber band mechanism???

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