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![]() Posts: 220 | Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Monday, February, 20, 2012 2:54 PM
I apologize if this has been posted before. Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON. I wish they'd re-hire her at least as a consultant on TRON Uprising or for TR3N.
Sounds like she's got the right stuff and is in least a part of what made TRON brilliant in the first place!
So cool that she's still married to Alan Kay who inspired the character of Alan Bradley/TRON. Did now know she wrote the part of Flynn with Robin Williams in mind.
http://www.mediamikes.com/2011/09/interview-with-trons-bonnie-macbird/
"However the original tone of the film was a bit different, for Flynn I had Robin Williams in mind (see above). So Flynn in my versions was a bit more of a wild man, originally a pizza delivery boy with probably a touch of ADD and a slightly wackier quality. For the record, I loved Jeff Bridges in the role, and because I later read every draft of the film, I noticed that he adlibbed back in some of the humor I was going for originally but was excised in later drafts by other writers." |
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 Posts: 72 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Monday, February, 20, 2012 3:05 PM
Haha, a touch of ADD and a slightly wackier quality ... Bonnie wanted The Dude to be Flynn before the Dude was the Dude. Or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
I'm very glad Mork was not Flynn.
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 Posts: 248 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Monday, February, 20, 2012 3:16 PM
Pizza delivery guy with a touch of ADD. Yeah. I kinda pictured Flynn as a functional ADD case, as there was some of the mania crossed with the hyper-focus on certain things like video games that my sis and brother in law tell me show up on kids with the condition. In the 80's they would not have known what to do with it, but it fits the fanon about him being an occasional toker and/or drinking coffee by the pot. Stimulants being how they treat ADD, some adult cases go undiagnosed because they're self-medicating with tons of caffeine.
It's an entire universe in there, one we created, but it's beyond us now. Really. It's outgrown us. You know, every time you shut off your computer...do you know what you're doing? Have you ever reformatted a hard drive? Deleted old software? Destroyed an entire universe?"
-- Jet Bradley, Tron: Ghost in the Machine on why being a User isn't necessarily a good thing. |
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 Posts: 3,305 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Monday, February, 20, 2012 5:43 PM
I read a previous interview with her (from 2002) that revealed a bit more negativity from her, and it made me realize I'm glad Lisberger's vision is the one that got more realized.
I wonder if the advent of Tron Legacy and a surge in popularity with the franchise has made her recently warm up to Tron a bit more, or if time is helping to mend some past wounds, or if she is choosing to be a bit more positive for other reasons... but I do sense the interview above (from 2011) is more positive and less revealing than a past interview.
See Esotek's post on this page, posted in 2009 which shows an email interview Martin Fisher did with Bonnie in 2002: http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=369609
The below snippets from the 2002 interview and others within reinforce my opinion that her vision probably isn't the Tron I would've wanted to see, as I mention on that other page. Tron mainly drew me in with its visuals and serious/dark tone, so I'm glad it's Lisberger's vision that more came to light.
I appreciate her basic outline of the film, and I'm sure it wasn't easy for her to see her script undergo substantial changes from what she crafted, but I think I'm okay her not being involved in Tron anymore. Yes, it's been 30 years since Tron, so maybe she'd be willing and able to take the canon and improve upon it now in wonderful ways in a Tr3n, but I have my doubts; mainly because I fear she'd still have creative differences with the direction someone more visually oriented, like Lisberger and Kosinski, would take it and would, therefore, not be able to gel well with them or what I like to see out of Tron movies. I like that Steven drew the movie into a more serious tone than Bonnie says she would have liked.
Snippets from a Bonnie MacBird 2002 interview:
Was there anything in the final script that you didn`t care for?
"The line as one character is being drained of its life force "Wait! I need that!" makes me just cringe. It is so contrary to the wit and humor and subtlety of the original that I just shudder. I`m afraid its typical of many of the lines. Actually most of the dialogue makes me shudder."
Did you enjoy watching Tron and when was the last time you saw it?
"No, I was too mad about it. I`ve probably calmed down some since then. I actually went to the premiere with Alan Kay and famous science fiction writer Harlan Ellison who sympathized with the "evisceration of my script."
Were there any parts written that didn't made it to the screen though you would have liked them to?
"Any of my dialogue. Only my concept, character ideas and skeleton remain."
What was the writing process like? What was the original story like compared to the final scripted version?
"The writing process was difficult and eventually Steven and I had a falling out."
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 Posts: 2,395 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Monday, February, 20, 2012 6:50 PM
I can understand why she's mad. I was always the one angry when my newspaper stories had to be cut in college (even when I was the copy editor, I'd make someone else cut my stories if they needed it because to me, it was ALL important-- that was why I put it in there. And yes, I wasn't always happy with the outcome). I could see being mad if you were hired to do a job, and then they took what you turned out and completely changed it-- you'd wonder why you were hired to begin with if they were going to throw away almost everything you'd done.
I don't know what her original writing looked like. I'd love to compare the two. I'm not really sure how well it would've worked out to make it more humorous-- in the end it was a serious subject (I could totally see doing a humorous in-computer story as well, but the plot would have to be different). But it's possible she made it work in some way I'm not imagining.
I could see Robin Williams in the role. He doesn't do just goofy stuff (and it seems like the older he gets, the more serious his stuff becomes). The guy can do humor, serious stuff (Good Morning Vietnam, Patch Adams, What Dreams May Come), even creepy stuff (One Hour Photo, which I never saw because I wasn't sure I could stand to see RW in a creepy role, but I hear he was pretty good). If you get past the Mork & Mindy thing and some of his sillier roles, and look more to the serious roles that still had humor/ a sense of playfulness incorporated (like Good Morning Vietnam and Patch Adams) I think he easily could've put in a good Flynn. Though I'm not sure if I'd agree with MacBird that the Flynn character should've been a total nutter. I think he would've been a lot more difficult to like had he been written as much more immature than he was.
I dunno, I never even imagined Flynn as NOT being an ADD/ADHD type. Perhaps it's because I've known way too many computer-geek types who were, and it's typecast for me now.
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 Posts: 248 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Tuesday, February, 21, 2012 5:38 AM
I'm with McBird on the dialogue. Unfortunately, the film did have dialogue straight out of 80's Saturday morning. Granted, I learned to write from that film and 80's toons...
It's an entire universe in there, one we created, but it's beyond us now. Really. It's outgrown us. You know, every time you shut off your computer...do you know what you're doing? Have you ever reformatted a hard drive? Deleted old software? Destroyed an entire universe?"
-- Jet Bradley, Tron: Ghost in the Machine on why being a User isn't necessarily a good thing. |
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![]() Posts: 220 | RE: Brilliant interview with TRON’s Bonnie MacBird, co-writer of TRON on Tuesday, February, 21, 2012 1:29 PM
Thanks so much Traahn for the link to Esotek's post to the earlier interview (kudos to Martin Fisher for contacting her too). Definitely a different tone in 2002. Also, good for me to keep in mind that there's 2 or 3 or 4 sides to every story.
I'm glad Flynn was a programmer & owned an arcade. If he had been a pizza delivery guy it wouldn't have been as much fun or interesting to the arcade loving kids (I loved the arcades as a kid, still do). I think Jeff Bridges, Bruce Boxleitner & Cindy Morgan were all perfectly cast in their roles.
I'm hoping that maybe Steven and Bonnie have since talked. Somehow, I'm thinking maybe not.
Does anyone have a version of Bonnie's original script? Interviews with the other writers who polished the script?
The creative process on any big project can be brutal. Looks like the creative differences somehow still helped to make TRON a better script and movie. where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online
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