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/Charon
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Thursday, April, 28, 2011 6:24 PM
Laser makes people into human data, puts actual chemicals in container.
Laser makes human data back to biological human from stored chemicals
Laser makes ISO data into ISO made from chemicals in canister.

My point is,
just because Flynns matter was used for realworld Quorra, doesn't mean she is a biological human made of cells. Besides, where would the laser get the data from, about how to make a human Quorra since Quorra isn't human even in the grid? Make it up?

The only structure the laser could have organised Flynns matter into Quorra, is the same as she was structured like in the grid, because thats the only data available.

Quorra is not human in the realworld,
Sam is human in the grid but made of data
Sam is human in the realworld made of matter
Quorra is ISO in the grid, made of data
Quorra is ISO in the realworld, but made of matter

Doesn't make sense otherwise.


 
WildWill
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Thursday, April, 28, 2011 9:53 PM
Well, we can all just speculate until Tron 3 comes out - because I'm sure that WILL be addressed.

In my mind the laser simply reassembled a human being in the SHAPE of Quorra with her mind and memories and she's human. Whether or not that can be replicated, I don't know - since the ISOs were said to be more advanced and completely different than the programs. In the comic it's explained that they are entirely a new life form, so who really knows, except the people who are going to write the sequel




 
Reggie1971
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Friday, April, 29, 2011 3:28 PM
ChessMess Wrote:Yes, the theory to make Quorra Flesh comes from the containers of materials attached to the Shiva laser. But in this theory, she is still pure DIGITAL, kind of like Automan. Pure energy in Human Form. Maybe she has an outer covering of Skin akin to a Terminator.

The form the energy takes is that of a user. They needed FLYNNS disc so she coud reproduce that form in the real world, because her disc would not have contained that information. However the sequencing program that controlled the laser had to know the difference between the two otherwise Quorra would have emerged looking like Flynn.

So while she is human in form, she is not biological in nature.

If the containers of carbon and water are necessary for life in the grid to emerge as life in our world, then how could Clu's army have managed to materialize? Is it possible that Flynn had a larger reservoir of carbon and water that he set up to bring the ISOs through, and Clu was made aware of this before he betrayed Flynn and destroyed the ISOs?
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/Charon
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Saturday, April, 30, 2011 8:17 PM
Ram64 Wrote:
/Charon Wrote:Laser makes people into human data, puts actual chemicals in container.
Laser makes human data back to biological human from stored chemicals
Laser makes ISO data into ISO made from chemicals in canister.

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed that part.

Because it never says that.

Ever.

No it doesn't. Neither does it say what you suggest.

All I'm saying is that it cannot create something which it has no data for.

So the only really logical conclusion is that Quorra is structured in the real world according to her digital DNA, just made from actual matter.

Reggie1971 Wrote:If the containers of carbon and water are necessary for life in the grid to emerge as life in our world, then how could Clu's army have managed to materialize? Is it possible that Flynn had a larger reservoir of carbon and water that he set up to bring the ISOs through, and Clu was made aware of this before he betrayed Flynn and destroyed the ISOs?

Clu has no clue about how it works and what's possible to do with it. Just the fact that he wanted to go to the real world with his army on that ship should make this obvious.
But that doesn't change that it would be really bad if clu got anything out, even if only himself, he'd figure out how it is and think of what he could do.


 
/Charon
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Sunday, May, 01, 2011 2:44 AM
Ram64 Wrote:
/Charon Wrote:
Ram64 Wrote:
/Charon Wrote:Laser makes people into human data, puts actual chemicals in container.
Laser makes human data back to biological human from stored chemicals
Laser makes ISO data into ISO made from chemicals in canister.

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed that part.

Because it never says that.

Ever.

No it doesn't. Neither does it say what you suggest.

All I'm saying is that it cannot create something which it has no data for.

So the only really logical conclusion is that Quorra is structured in the real world according to her digital DNA, just made from actual matter.


Oh, It doesn't, does it?
First movie, specifically states:
LASER MAKES PEOPLE INTO DATA.
The laser doesn't LITERALLY put the object in the computer! it turns it into data. so, if people become data, and are then turned into matter, then Data can be turned into actual matter.
are you getting this, gov'na?

Yea I'm totally saying it doesn't or what....o.O

you can completely simulate humans, you don't need additional data to do it. there is no way for it to figure out how Quorra would be structured if she was made of biological cells however. What would it do? make cells like Flynns, but instead of his DNA put in the digital DNA, and otherwise play around till it looks like Quorra?


 
jtr7
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Sunday, May, 01, 2011 2:59 AM
The molecules are suspended in the laser beam. It's not simple to build flesh without first having those molecules, as with Sam and Kevin.


 
/Charon
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RE: Quorra: still DIGITAL after she came out of the COMPUTER

on Monday, May, 02, 2011 7:10 PM
jtr7 Wrote:The molecules are suspended in the laser beam. It's not simple to build flesh without first having those molecules, as with Sam and Kevin.
wats your point?
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