tron58fury User
Posts: 75 | Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 12:48 AM
I have a question about Tron Legacy. The Sentries and other lesser programs speak with a digitized voice. However CLU, Quorra, Jarvis, and Castor speak and sound perfectly human. Is there a reason for this? I know Quorra is an ISO program and they are different, but what about the others. Is this some kind of Tron hierarchy? Even Rinzler, when he becomes the redeemed Tron, speaks in a digitized voice. Obviously that of Bruce Boxleitner. I'd love to hear ideas or reasons to why this is so.
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Posts: 156 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 1:01 AM
Honestly? Probably cost and/or effort. Those characters just talk too much to be edited so.
Or you could go with, you have to have something exciting for every character, no one likes characters that appear once to fulfill a random purpose you need done without something interesting or pertinent to the story and then disappear and are never seen or heard from again, so they spied up the program voices so they are more than just a random place holder forgotten program?
A more aesthetic answer: Perhaps how much free thought they have? Clu, Quorra, Jarvis, and Castor all have a greater measure of free thought and human quality, much less do-as-I-have-programmed-and-commanded and more free to adapt their programming to personal impetus. The other ones are generally very cut and dry follow commands.
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 4:06 AM
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 7:01 AM
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tron58fury User
Posts: 75 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 1:17 PM
I can see your point. If you have a digitized voice, then you're an expendable program. Unfortunately for Castor, CLU did not follow that line of reasoning.
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Posts: 99 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 1:21 PM
Maybe the digitized voice is a side effect from CLU hacking and reappropriating a program?
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 1:32 PM
I don't really understand the robotic nature of a lot of the programs either. What with the head bonking, and some of them seeming like total idiots, it's not a far stretch to see one repeatedly walking into a wall with a doorway 1 foot to the left. Someone apparently didn't quite get what the universe is supposed to be. Why would a program ever be stupid like that? They're not machines. They're what make machines work.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion
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Posts: 168 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 1:35 PM
Well, some programs are more complex than others, so that could be the reason some sound rather crude instead of expressing themselves in dulcet tones.
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Posts: 2,056 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 2:25 PM
hmmm. I think that Programs with more true emotion and intelligence beyond there programming have less synth reverb in their voices... One's with less true "human-ness" intrinsically still retain a pronounced synth reverb to their voice.
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Posts: 331 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 2:31 PM
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Posts: 188 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 2:37 PM
Errex Wrote:Well, some programs are more complex than others, so that could be the reason some sound rather crude instead of expressing themselves in dulcet tones.
I kind of like the reasoning that a repurposed (hacked) program could end up sounding more artificial than ISO's, Users or AI's. |
This. Obviously, the programs with normal voices are Castor, Quorra, Clu, Jarvis, and Tron (in the flashback) are more advanced or have higher functions. The helmets, of course, distort everyone's voices (i.e Rinzler and Quorra). Why use Norton AV or AVG to protect your computer when you could be using TRON instead!? |
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 3:00 PM
I thought more simply-minded pros would probably also look simpler - down to the extreme like Bit. The data pushers scene from the original for example.
Guess it also seemed odd because what someone does as their job is no reflection on their intelligence. Do these 'retards' still get to chill at the nightclub after hours, or are they looked down upon by the rest of society?
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Posts: 26 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 3:30 PM
I gave this some thought also after the first few times of seeing the movie. My guess is that the novelty would wear off if everyone spoke in the digi-voice. Also- as evidenced by the few lines Jem actually speaks- sometimes the dialogue is hard to make out when it's digitized.
Truth be told I enjoy the fact that not all of the programs speak this way. Again, the novelty and genuine thrill of it, frankly, is maintained when it's used sparingly.
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Posts: 382 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 3:35 PM
Tron Fanatic Wrote:
Guess it also seemed odd because what someone does as their job is no reflection on their intelligence. |
The difference between our world and theirs is that in many respects Programs are defined by their jobs. Their jobs are what they were created for, their purpose, their function and their limitations. A simple Sentry is not going to be given as much processing power or as complex a code as a program that designs simulations or one that optimizes the Grid's information flow.
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 3:39 PM
cirlin Wrote:Tron Fanatic Wrote:
Guess it also seemed odd because what someone does as their job is no reflection on their intelligence. |
The difference between our world and theirs is that in many respects Programs are defined by their jobs. Their jobs are what they were created for, their purpose, their function and their limitations. A simple Sentry is not going to be given as much processing power or as complex a code as a program that designs simulations or one that optimizes the Grid's information flow. |
The Sirens kinda fly in the face of that though. Not only do they move in sync, look robotic, and barely say 2 words to each other, when they've finished their job, they enter what I can only assume are stasis chambers. Nothing particularly complex about what they do, and they look lost in the head while they're doing their thing.
I was actually shocked when I saw Gem on the street later. And shocked again when she was acting much more human.
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Posts: 382 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 4:10 PM
Tron Fanatic Wrote:cirlin Wrote:Tron Fanatic Wrote:
Guess it also seemed odd because what someone does as their job is no reflection on their intelligence. |
The difference between our world and theirs is that in many respects Programs are defined by their jobs. Their jobs are what they were created for, their purpose, their function and their limitations. A simple Sentry is not going to be given as much processing power or as complex a code as a program that designs simulations or one that optimizes the Grid's information flow. |
The Sirens kinda fly in the face of that though. Not only do they move in sync, look robotic, and barely say 2 words to each other, when they've finished their job, they enter what I can only assume are stasis chambers. Nothing particularly complex about what they do, and they look lost in the head while they're doing their thing.
I was actually shocked when I saw Gem on the street later. And shocked again when she was acting much more human.
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That would be why I used the phrase "...in many respects..." Also, remember that the Sirens did talk while still going about their functions ("He's different" and "Survive").
I imagine that there is a continuum of function in the programs, not simply "Dumb" and "Smart". In the last thread about the voices it was mentioned that in the behind the scenes video talking about the sound of the movie the sound designers said that they deliberately chose various levels of distortion based on how complex a program was. They represented at least three levels of that in the movie (Sentrys with heavy distortion, Sirens with a lower level of distortion, and others like Clu or Quorra with no distortion)
I also imagine that when "on the job" they are more constrained in their behavior (by choice or by design? An interesting question in itself)
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Posts: 1,461 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 4:53 PM
cirlin Wrote:I also imagine that when "on the job" they are more constrained in their behavior (by choice or by design? An interesting question in itself) |
I was very taken aback by Gem. I don't know if it was meant to be a shock or not that she was a free program. When I saw the girls go back into their pods, all I could think was, "Yeesh, their lives suck." It was like Davy Jones's ship all over again for me, with the crew members who meld with the hull of the Dutchman when they're not working. '> |
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Thursday, February, 10, 2011 7:55 PM
cirlin Wrote:I also imagine that when "on the job" they are more constrained in their behavior (by choice or by design? An interesting question in itself) |
Not all that different than real life. There are a lot of things I can do in my real life that I can't do at work. Well, in my job, I'm lucky that I can swear like a sailor and crack dirty jokes and run around in jeans and put my feet on my desk if I want, but I've had plenty of jobs that are totally not like that. Or imagine the military...would we be shocked to see those guys marching in formation and then later going home and having a beer and laughing like a hyena at a funny movie?
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tron58fury User
Posts: 75 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Friday, February, 11, 2011 12:36 AM
Yes, I thought of the helmets as being part of the reason for the digitized voice. After all CLU and Quorra did have a distortion when wearing their helmets. Rinzler was also wearing his helmet while speaking as the redeemed Tron. However, the Sirens and some of the other rogue programs also spoke with digitized voices and did not wear helmets. I guess that the reason has to do aesthetic purposes rather than real world explanations.
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: Program Voices in Tron Legacy on Friday, February, 11, 2011 6:51 AM
tron58fury Wrote:Yes, I thought of the helmets as being part of the reason for the digitized voice. After all CLU and Quorra did have a distortion when wearing their helmets. Rinzler was also wearing his helmet while speaking as the redeemed Tron. However, the Sirens and some of the other rogue programs also spoke with digitized voices and did not wear helmets. I guess that the reason has to do aesthetic purposes rather than real world explanations. |
I was actually surprised that Tronzler's voice was NOT more distorted through the helmet, actually. Did anybody else think it sounded a bit less distorted at the end when he becomes Tron again, or is my imagination running away with me? (It'd be awesome if that were the case, but I seem to remember it wasn't all that digital-sounding in the beginning, either)
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