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Posts: 148 | New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 11:47 AM
1- Basically, Flynn just created an ordinary operative system a-la Windows (Bill Gates did that too) and put millions of Programs on that. Hence the Grid. Since there's the SHIVA laser around, he had been able to explore his system as a Program, but from the outside human perspective it's just an operative system filled with countless Programs. Nothing special. See your PC right now.
Okay, maybe the Grid can store millions of Programs, our operative system can't. Maybe. I don't know. Programs in 1983-1989 were very simple and not elaborated like the modern ones.
Then, the ISOs. Do you think the ISOs popped up on other computers in the TRON fictional universe Real World? I think so. "If the conditions are right". So basically, if the conditions are right, ISOs could have self-generated in other personal computers too. As bugs.
Now, from the Users's point of view, they are just strange bugs in the systems which don't do anything special. Maybe Users can't even spoil/detect them. But from the inside, Flynn has met them, he just discovered that their bio-digital genetics is 100% special, he assumed that they are advanced and can change the world IF brought into the real dimension.
That's the main point of TRON Legacy, digitizing human nature or materializing code programming apart.
2- I already talked about why CLU can truly materialize in the Real World. He got a digital D.N.A. like all Programs in the TRON universe, Basics and ISOs alike.
Now basically I think I guessed what CLU "figured out" (cit. FLYNN's words) to accomplish his final plan. While the laser uses PREVIOUSLY-STORED carbon moleculas to recompose subjects, CLU figured out how to program the laser to rearrange moleculas from the surrounding reality to provide new moleculas necessary to materialize his Army. This means the basement, the Arcade and part of that section of the city would be "reformatted" to provide new moleculas and make the Army materialize.
This "solution" is, of course, inprinted on CLU's disc, but he needs the Creator's disc to get the key to the portal anyway.
3- Teleportation in Cronenberg's FLY universe works as the SHIVA laser, the only difference is that the original subject is destroyed and the copy is made of brand-new atoms (that's what CLU figured out, by the way).
This means when Seth Brundle has been first teleported (and genetically merged with the Fly), a Brundlefly digital version suddenly appeared in the quantic subspace host by the Telepods computer. Isn't that ultra-cool?
4- Flynn just built the Grid. He wrote it. Computer programming.
The Programs - NOT having Flynn's appearance and D.N.A. - were built by other computer programmers. Many other computer programmers. Flynn just took their Programs and installed them on the Grid system.
Programs refer to Flynn as "the creator" because he built the system they had been uploaded on (from nothing). So, in a way, he created them in the moment he INSTALLED them.
As for the vehicles, originally Flynn wrote them, then CLU and many other Programs produced new models/exemplars. Same for the tools.
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Posts: 148 | RE: New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 5:27 PM
Jarvis: "Rectifier on schedule where INITIATIVE should be operational within 12 cycles".
5- Is the INITIATIVE the transfer to the Real World? Yes, of course. CLU's final plan.
12 Cycles equal to... how much Real World time? About 2 months. How much "Perception/subjective" time? (if a millicycle equals to 8 hours...) 96.000 hours. Such a long time!
This means CLU wasn't going to make the Army collide with the Portal ASAP. It would have been a much later process.
The Programs knew the portal would have been opened just a MILLICYCLE... so why the 12 CYCLES figure? Look like CLU was going to materialize alone, before the Army, and set up their coming to the Real World.
The Army must wait 12 Cycles for CLU... 96.000 hours of Perception time...
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Posts: 324 | RE: New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 8:01 PM
Something else I noticed, I wish Sam didn't menion the Lakers and War in the Middle East. I mean, what is the 'real' world? Is it planet Earth or something else? I wish the mention of real 'our' world events weren't mentioned at all.
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Posts: 1,667 | RE: New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 8:05 PM
c1 Wrote:Something else I noticed, I wish Sam didn't menion the Lakers and War in the Middle East. I mean, what is the 'real' world? Is it planet Earth or something else? I wish the mention of real 'our' world events weren't mentioned at all. |
Care to explain why? It made sense, to me at least, because Kevin actually told Sam "Now, its time for you to tell me a story"
Showing that he wanted to know what was going on in the Real World.
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Posts: 2,394 | RE: New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 9:27 PM
typicaltronname Wrote:c1 Wrote:Something else I noticed, I wish Sam didn't menion the Lakers and War in the Middle East. I mean, what is the 'real' world? Is it planet Earth or something else? I wish the mention of real 'our' world events weren't mentioned at all. |
Care to explain why? It made sense, to me at least, because Kevin actually told Sam "Now, its time for you to tell me a story"
Showing that he wanted to know what was going on in the Real World.
This is off-topic, but I just remembered that the Original Novelization calls it the "Other World" instead of the "Real World" like in the Movie. |
Actually, though, I agree with that. Nothing dates a movie or book like mentioning something that is current at the very moment. I dunno, somehow even when a book or movie is set in an exact year or even on an exact day in an exact year, unless a current event or fad plays strongly into the plot somehow, mentioning it seems to take away the timelessness of it.
I think in large part it's because it makes it very obvious that the work was written to an audience at a specific point in time. And if I wanted people reading my book 20, 30, 50 years later, I wouldn't want to refer to some obscure social event those future readers might not even know about. And it's always piddly stuff--this team won the Super Bowl, this movie came out, this not-huge story was in the news. It may've been relevant at the time, but it won't be even in five years and readers/watchers/listeners will be saying, "geez, remember when THAT was a big deal? Trivial now." Mention the past? Fine. Because you're probably mentioning something big enough that everybody "gets" it, hence why it's in the past but still known. What do you want? I'm busy.
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Posts: 1,667 | RE: New points about LEGACY on Monday, January, 24, 2011 9:28 PM
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