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Mayorcan
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Radia and Jalen OR Ophelia and Giles???

on Friday, December, 31, 2010 6:03 PM
So after reading TRON Betrayal and then playing TRON Evolution, I am confused as to the name change for Ophelia. Since Betrayal came first, I assume she is originally Ophelia, and at some point prior to 1989, took on the name Radia instead, even though she looked the same in both Betrayal part 2 and Evolution. Is an explanation ever given anywhere as to why she changed her name?

I now have this hunch that Giles, the other ISO leader in Betrayal, changed his name, too. To Jalen. After all, he isn't seen in Evolution aside from in passing and as the corrupted Abraxas virus. And according to what Radia says, he seems to be the same as Giles in terms of capacity.

So why the name changes? I know why Zuse became Castor, but I don't see why Ophelia and maybe Giles would have done this, since they never survived the Purge nor had to go "underground".

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typicaltronname
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on Friday, December, 31, 2010 6:11 PM
http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Ophelia
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ZexionVI
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on Friday, December, 31, 2010 11:52 PM
Mayorcan Wrote:So after reading TRON Betrayal and then playing TRON Evolution, I am confused as to the name change for Ophelia. Since Betrayal came first, I assume she is originally Ophelia, and at some point prior to 1989, took on the name Radia instead, even though she looked the same in both Betrayal part 2 and Evolution. Is an explanation ever given anywhere as to why she changed her name?

I now have this hunch that Giles, the other ISO leader in Betrayal, changed his name, too. To Jalen. After all, he isn't seen in Evolution aside from in passing and as the corrupted Abraxas virus. And according to what Radia says, he seems to be the same as Giles in terms of capacity.

So why the name changes? I know why Zuse became Castor, but I don't see why Ophelia and maybe Giles would have done this, since they never survived the Purge nor had to go "underground".

My theory is that Ophelia and Giles are their chosen names, whereas when they became the leaders of the ISO's they chose new names to differentiate themselves from their former identities. So Ophelia chose her name to be Radia and Giles chose his name to be Jalen.



 
jonwes
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on Saturday, January, 01, 2011 4:04 AM
typicaltronname Wrote:http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Ophelia
This seems to offer an explanation.

Does it? It just says that Ophelia and Radia/ Giles and Jalen are one and the same. I actually think Radia and Jalen might just be different people altogether. A long time has passed on the Grid between Betrayal and Evolution.


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ZexionVI
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RE: Radia and Jalen OR Ophelia and Giles???

on Saturday, January, 01, 2011 11:53 AM
jonwes Wrote:
typicaltronname Wrote:http://tron.wikia.com/wiki/Ophelia
This seems to offer an explanation.

Does it? It just says that Ophelia and Radia/ Giles and Jalen are one and the same. I actually think Radia and Jalen might just be different people altogether. A long time has passed on the Grid between Betrayal and Evolution.

Well, then we get into the issue of the other games, most notably the DS version of Evolution which takes place in 85 according to the timeline. The second issue of Betrayal has to take place in at least 85 because that's when Jordan died. Radia is present in the DS version of Evolution and also in the second issue of Betrayal (the endign may I add also takes place years later than the beginning of the issue, so possibly 88) . But in Betrayal, they call her Ophelia, yet notice, the only one who does so is Flynn. Which makes me think, that's the name that Flynn always knew her as, so of course he'd call her that, she was basically his student after all (explained in the Tron files of Evolution).

When she changed her name to Radia, it was to give herself a public presence as a leader separate from the identity of the normal ISO everyone knew. The Jalen/Giles debate is beyond my reasoning at the moment because there can be SO many possibilities, but I'd like to think my reasoning is solid...
Sorry if I seem pushy with my reasoning here, its pure speculation, but if anyone agrees or has a counterpoint PLEASE tell me xD


 
ZexionVI
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on Sunday, January, 02, 2011 6:02 PM
Reading the Tron Files in the Tron Evolution video game makes it clear that Jalen is Giles and Radia is Ophelia


 
jonwes
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on Sunday, January, 02, 2011 8:17 PM
ZexionVI Wrote:Reading the Tron Files in the Tron Evolution video game makes it clear that Jalen is Giles and Radia is Ophelia

Cool! Does it explain the name change? I have some of the Tron Files but not all of them.


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typicaltronname
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on Sunday, January, 02, 2011 8:27 PM
jonwes Wrote:
ZexionVI Wrote:Reading the Tron Files in the Tron Evolution video game makes it clear that Jalen is Giles and Radia is Ophelia

Cool! Does it explain the name change? I have some of the Tron Files but not all of them.

If you have Abraxas' Tron File, it kinda does. Radia's doesn't seem to talk too much about that.

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ZexionVI
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RE: Radia and Jalen OR Ophelia and Giles???

on Sunday, January, 02, 2011 8:29 PM
jonwes Wrote:
ZexionVI Wrote:Reading the Tron Files in the Tron Evolution video game makes it clear that Jalen is Giles and Radia is Ophelia

Cool! Does it explain the name change? I have some of the Tron Files but not all of them.

Get the files for Abraxas and Radia. The Abraxas file says that he (Jalen) was one of the first ISOs alongside Ophelia, and was taken under the wing of Flynn. Radia's file states that she was educated by Flynn as well, and her date of emergence is given as TC29, the same time as Jalen's emergence. It seems as though they were the first ISO's.

Here, i'll just copy the files from the game
These explain better than I do. You have to understand the timeline a bit to understand them though.


Radia
Political and spiritual head of ISO faction known as Arjians. One of the oldest Alpha-class ISOs, having emerged from the Sea of Simulation in TC29.
Educated in workings of human culture by Kevin Flynn upon adoption for purpose of studying ISO development. Used unfettered access to Flynn to achieve current revered status as a faction leader by sharing teachings and anecdotal experiences with other interested programs across the Grid as purported gospel or doctrine.
Able to read patterns in code and detect fluctuations in energy flow through the Grid, with innate ability enhanced by central Interface module in Arjia City. Proficient in baton combat. Expert-class privileges in Light Cycle operation granted.

Abraxas
Virus. Formerly an Alpha-clas ISO known as Jalen.
Emerged from Sea of Simulation in TC29. Originally adopted by Kevin Flynn for intensive study regarding unknown nature of ISOs. Received advanced education in User culture from Flynn alongside of fellow ISO, Ophelia, and slated for ordination into System Administration. Thought to be derezzed during a unusually violent accident during a Grid Game tournament in TC296; in truth, was secretly taken captive and corrupted by Clu into highly unstable virus.
Able to manipulate and transform all forms of energy. Can spread infection to other programs with a single touch. Proficient in disc combat. Expert-class privilege in Light Cycle operation granted.


 
ZexionVI
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RE: Radia and Jalen OR Ophelia and Giles???

on Sunday, January, 02, 2011 8:35 PM
typicaltronname Wrote:
jonwes Wrote:
ZexionVI Wrote:Reading the Tron Files in the Tron Evolution video game makes it clear that Jalen is Giles and Radia is Ophelia

Cool! Does it explain the name change? I have some of the Tron Files but not all of them.

If you have Abraxas' Tron File, it kinda does. Radia's doesn't seem to talk too much about that.

Well, yeah, but it helps if you read Radia's too, because it basically describes Ophelia and Radia as the same person. I guess you really do have to have prior knowledge of the timeline in a way :/



 
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