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Posts: 1 | My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Wednesday, November, 24, 2010 10:58 PM
Hey guys, I apologize if something like this has already been said, since I don't follow the Tron fanbase.
Just wanted to put down my thoughts on what's happening in Tron Legacy.
So I was wondering how Clu could possibly turn against Flynn, how created could turn against creator. Granted, we have essentially seen this in the past with the MCP and Dillinger, but the MCP was created to do that. I doubt anything in Clu's programming would ever prompt him to rebel against Flynn. Then that leaves only one option: it has to be an outside source.
But what? Well, I don't know about you, but the first thing that came to my mind is a virus. He was infected. And, oh look, in Tron Evolution (the prequel to Tron Legacy), we just so happen to focus on a virus, Abraxas.
On a tangent, it's interesting to note that Abraxas was a real virus in 1993 and the origin of the name (and the mythological figure) is pretty interesting, but I digress.
So, anyway, that begs the question: Where did Abraxas come from? Well, who would have malicious intent against ENCOM? That's easy: Dillinger. He wanted revenge against Flynn. With the dawn of the internet in 1983, this was the perfect time frame. By email or some other connection, he could create the virus and send it to ENCOM's system remotely, so as to destroy its infrastructure.
Starting with Flynn's system, Abraxas probably began to infect and, in turn, assimilate Flynn's programs. With an amalgamation of programs, Abraxas began to change form. By taking the many of the programs of the user he in effect became a reflection of the user. So, what I'm saying here is that Abraxas evolves into Clu 2 (note that both have the yellow suits). Whether this comes about by him possessing a new version of Clu, I'm not sure.
Sensing the danger, I think Flynn might have isolated his computer from the others at ENCOM. To rectify this, Clu 2 somehow lured Flynn into the system, setting a trap. He prevents Flynn from escaping, and seeks him out in order to find a code (or something of the sort), so that he can reconnect to the mainframe of ENCOM. Flynn, however, goes into hiding.
The end goal of the virus, I'm not sure about. But whatever it is, it must be serious enough for Flynn to hide for over 20 years.
Finally, with the help of Quorra, he manages to send an SOS to the outside world, via the pager.
And that's it, that's how I've connected the dots. What do you think? Possible? Probable? Faults? Fan-ficcy? Or are you guys not really into theories? lol
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Also, in terms of why Clu seems to take interest in Sam, it's so that he can gain leverage over Kevin. Putting Sam in danger (via the games), could force Kevin out of hiding.where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online
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KiaPurity User
Posts: 3,488 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Wednesday, November, 24, 2010 11:04 PM
The problem is that it was already explained why Clu turned against Flynn in Tron: Betrayal graphic novel.
Nice ideas, but what really happened was that Flynn simply didn't think far enough to give Clu a sort of "empathy" subroutine so he was just a jerk who wanted to achieve perfection and the ISOs being so unusual was a threat to his ideal perfection...
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Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 7:40 AM
KiaPurity Wrote:The problem is that it was already explained why Clu turned against Flynn in Tron: Betrayal graphic novel.
Nice ideas, but what really happened was that Flynn simply didn't think far enough to give Clu a sort of "empathy" subroutine so he was just a jerk who wanted to achieve perfection and the ISOs being so unusual was a threat to his ideal perfection... |
I think so, however we haven't seen the true story in Evolution yet that explains more in detail. I think Marvel screwed up a bit with the Betrayal story that it needs more fleshing out. Such as was Bradley aware that Flynn copied TRON over to his system? Or give permission?
As for Abraxas, if he attacks ENCOM while Flynn's basement server is independent, then somebody screwed up the writing. The ONLY explanation would be that his basement server was originally hooked to ENCOM via the early Internet and he unplugged the connection to stop the virus, but it was too late and it entered Clu's world.
Remember we have the LEGACY system that is ENCOM and then we have Flynn's system that is put together with prototypes, probably explaining why it has bugs in the system, not being stable enough. Its this point that Flynn is like a modern Dr. Frankenstein of sorts experimenting with something he shouldn't have done.
And look what it cost him. Although, lucky that he spent 20 years with Quorra which is bonus .order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill |
RenegadeProgram User
Posts: 593 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 8:20 AM
grass Wrote:Hey guys, I apologize if something like this has already been said, since I don't follow the Tron fanbase.
Just wanted to put down my thoughts on what's happening in Tron Legacy.
So I was wondering how Clu could possibly turn against Flynn, how created could turn against creator. Granted, we have essentially seen this in the past with the MCP and Dillinger, but the MCP was created to do that. I doubt anything in Clu's programming would ever prompt him to rebel against Flynn. Then that leaves only one option: it has to be an outside source.
But what? Well, I don't know about you, but the first thing that came to my mind is a virus. He was infected. And, oh look, in Tron Evolution (the prequel to Tron Legacy), we just so happen to focus on a virus, Abraxas.
On a tangent, it's interesting to note that Abraxas was a real virus in 1993 and the origin of the name (and the mythological figure) is pretty interesting, but I digress.
So, anyway, that begs the question: Where did Abraxas come from? Well, who would have malicious intent against ENCOM? That's easy: Dillinger. He wanted revenge against Flynn. With the dawn of the internet in 1983, this was the perfect time frame. By email or some other connection, he could create the virus and send it to ENCOM's system remotely, so as to destroy its infrastructure.
Starting with Flynn's system, Abraxas probably began to infect and, in turn, assimilate Flynn's programs. With an amalgamation of programs, Abraxas began to change form. By taking the many of the programs of the user he in effect became a reflection of the user. So, what I'm saying here is that Abraxas evolves into Clu 2 (note that both have the yellow suits). Whether this comes about by him possessing a new version of Clu, I'm not sure.
Sensing the danger, I think Flynn might have isolated his computer from the others at ENCOM. To rectify this, Clu 2 somehow lured Flynn into the system, setting a trap. He prevents Flynn from escaping, and seeks him out in order to find a code (or something of the sort), so that he can reconnect to the mainframe of ENCOM. Flynn, however, goes into hiding.
The end goal of the virus, I'm not sure about. But whatever it is, it must be serious enough for Flynn to hide for over 20 years.
Finally, with the help of Quorra, he manages to send an SOS to the outside world, via the pager.
And that's it, that's how I've connected the dots. What do you think? Possible? Probable? Faults? Fan-ficcy? Or are you guys not really into theories? lol
EDIT:
Also, in terms of why Clu seems to take interest in Sam, it's so that he can gain leverage over Kevin. Putting Sam in danger (via the games), could force Kevin out of hiding. |
Greetings Program:
Just wanted to respond to something you stated - that the MCP was created to go against its creator. No, it was created in an effort to make things at ENCOM run more efficiently. The fact that the MCP ended up going against Dillinger and its human counterparts was because it had developed a distaste for humans and had gone rogue.
As far as Abraxas and Clu 2, I don't think there is a connection necessarily, and I doubt that we'll see or hear anything about Abraxas at all in Tron: Legacy when it comes out, as TRON:The Betrayal takes place between TRON and TRON: Legacy. If you get a chance go get the TRON:The Betrayal graphic novels as it spells some of that happened out.
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Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 8:24 AM
Renegade program,
Actually it goes like this:
TRON to TRON: Betrayal to EVOLUTION to LEGACY.
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Pilgrim1099 User
Posts: 606 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 8:31 AM
grass Wrote:Hey guys, I apologize if something like this has already been said, since I don't follow the Tron fanbase.
EDIT:
Also, in terms of why Clu seems to take interest in Sam, it's so that he can gain leverage over Kevin. Putting Sam in danger (via the games), could force Kevin out of hiding. |
IF that was the case, then we can guess who really paged Alan. Clu and Sam do have one thing in common. They were frustrated with their father however, his disappearance is Clu's fault and also Flynn's fault that he didn't do right by Clu to help him out originally to create a perfect Utopia.
I suspect, if Disney does it right, Castor may be the key to motivate Clu to redeem himself. Again, i have theories. After all, if you kill Clu, who has to rule the Grid then? Someone has to regulate it if RINZLER won't be reprogrammed back to his former self or derezz.
And Old Man Flynn can't stay in the Grid any longer unless he is terminally I'll that he can't return to the real world or something to that effect.
TRON is a security program, NOT a Master Control. Without the Clu Fu, there's no order.
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ShadowDragon1 User
Posts: 2,056 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 8:46 AM
People in here that haven't read Tron: Betrayal need to read the entire comic...
I think there's a strong possibilty that Abraxas was SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read: (like the Isos) born from the Sea of Simulation. Near the end of the comic Tron:Betrayal, Clu 2.0 secretly had a small group of his Black Guard poison the Sea of Simulation with a Isomorphic Virus. The sea is "possibilty" and "opprotunity".. it spawned the Isos.. now a viral element has been introduced... it makes since that maybe a virus program is spawned from it... where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online "The film is about finding human connection in an increasingly digital world." - Joseph Kosinski
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Posts: 609 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 10:43 AM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: People in here that haven't read Tron: Betrayal need to read the entire comic...
I think there's a strong possibilty that Abraxas was SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read:
(like the Isos) born from the Sea of Simulation. Near the end of the comic Tron:Betrayal, Clu 2.0 secretly had a small group of his Black Guard poison the Sea of Simulation with a Isomorphic Virus. The sea is "possibilty" and "opprotunity".. it spawned the Isos.. now a viral element has been introduced... it makes since that maybe a virus program is spawned from it... |
Agreed.
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KiaPurity User
Posts: 3,488 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Thursday, November, 25, 2010 12:16 PM
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RenegadeProgram User
Posts: 593 | RE: My theory on what's going on in Tron Legacy on Friday, November, 26, 2010 12:36 PM
ShadowDragon1 Wrote: People in here that haven't read Tron: Betrayal need to read the entire comic...
I think there's a strong possibilty that Abraxas was SPOILER... Mouse Over To Read:
(like the Isos) born from the Sea of Simulation. Near the end of the comic Tron:Betrayal, Clu 2.0 secretly had a small group of his Black Guard poison the Sea of Simulation with a Isomorphic Virus. The sea is "possibilty" and "opprotunity".. it spawned the Isos.. now a viral element has been introduced... it makes since that maybe a virus program is spawned from it... |
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