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Posts: 120 | Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 5:03 PM
This may have been discussed before, but I've wondered from time to time if Users are ever in any actual danger while inside the digital realm.
For example, the manner in which Flynn "distracted" the MCP was by throwing himself into the energy beam emanating therefrom. Before he jumps though, Yori exclaims "Don't! You'll be derezzed!"
If it was common knowledge to a program that performing such an act would lead to deresolution, why did it not kill Flynn? If he had fallen off of the Solar Sailer, or lost the ring game, or crashed his lightcycle, would he have died or simply been ejected from the digital realm and back into the real world? Was there something special about jumping into the MCP that made it different from dying some other way?
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Posts: 4,349 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 5:45 PM
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Posts: 313 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 6:20 PM
ahaha, wonder what the legacy story will be. Maybe kevin could kill himself then and come back to the real world. Maybe something's holding him there. heheorder abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
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Posts: 120 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 7:04 PM
| TRON.dll Wrote:My theory is that users don't derez, they are rematerialized in the real world instead. |
So then, where is the real drama? If a user is never in any REAL peril in the digital realm, why should we care?
I'm not trying to rebuff your theory, just throwing something out there.
I'd like to think that a user would (should) be in actual, legitimate danger when inside of the digital world, and that there was something special about jumping into the MCP that kept flynn from dying or derezzing.
that having been said though, wasn't the MCP the powerhouse that made the digitizing process possible in the first place? If the MCP was "distracted" by Flynn and then subsequently derezzed by Tron, wouldn't Flynn have been pretty much SOL? It seems to me that without the MCP, no one is getting in OR out of the system. where to buy abortion pill abortion types buy abortion pill online
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jtr7
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Posts: 71 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 9:04 PM
There is pain and suffering and grief and loss and imprisonment and not knowing if one can get back. We don't yet know why Flynn is staying where he is, if he can commit virtual suicide and leave at any time, or if he had set up the means, lost the means, or is putting off leaving. We know he's not any kind of program, but we don't know what that all means. I hope if we get answers, they don't spoil the fun.
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ShadowDragon1
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Posts: 2,056 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Thursday, September, 23, 2010 11:26 PM
Here's my theory:
Users inside cyberspace are very highly resilient, not really invincible.
A guard's staff still could inflict pain on Flynn.
Flynn re-directed a huge beam of energy, but it greatly dazed him and made him dizzy and eventually passed out, probably do to shock.
If a User in digital form actually died, or derezed due to excessive damage, I think his pattern would be so far degraded he would not be re-digitized in the real world unless there were emergency safety measures to preserve the User's pattern of his or her mind and physical body.
Flynn's leap into energy column of the MCP's didn't kill him, he probably landed on top of apparatus that the MCP himself (the old man looking Program) was encased in, which distracted him for a moment.
After Tron's disc went in, the system itself pulled Flynn up through the energy column and re-formed him in the real world. The MCP derezing just triggered the reversal of the digitization program sequence.
This makes sense to me, so I don't see the problem
In Tron Legacy, I think Flynn is most likely trapped, the channel for Flynn to return to the real world/be re-formed is cut off or blocked by Clu, perhaps a kind of fire wall type of seal that Flynn can't overcome. Some one can be digitized and go into The Grid, but a User can't leave due to the "fire wall".
Maybe it will take Clu's deletion and "freeing the System" so Sam and Flynn can finally remove the firewall or maybe the firewall vanishes when Clu is derezed.
If Flynn killed him self I am very certain he would not be
re-formed in the real world.
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Compucore
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Posts: 4,450 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Friday, September, 24, 2010 1:04 AM
It just struck me here. Do you remember in tron 2.0 with the datawraths that were rezzed into the game into the digital world. I remember when playing the game when one of them was ejected from the digital world with the cut scene when one came out and was in a coma of some sort. For sure in this case would happened the same way with Flynn. They would be ejected back out if their digital form was let go.
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Posts: 4,349 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Friday, September, 24, 2010 1:38 AM
| Compucore Wrote:It just struck me here. Do you remember in tron 2.0 with the datawraths that were rezzed into the game into the digital world. I remember when playing the game when one of them was ejected from the digital world with the cut scene when one came out and was in a coma of some sort. For sure in this case would happened the same way with Flynn. They would be ejected back out if their digital form was let go. |
Yeah, that's where my theory came from (despite 2.0 being out of canon now). I figured it may be in-canon since it was hinted at in the original movie (Flynn "derezzing" by jumping into the MCP cone).
We'll probably get more info on how the rematerialization process works in the graphic novel/comic books, as it seems that in the early to late 80's, Flynn was rezzing in and out of the computer world quite frequently.order abortion pill abortion pill buy online where to buy abortion pill
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ELMIND
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Posts: 67 | Re: Are Users invincible?
on Saturday, September, 25, 2010 6:20 PM
In the first Tron movie, users were Godly to an extent, capable of even preventing a program's derezz and fixing a destroyed recognizer.
In Tron 2.0, Users are vulnerable (as you see, Jet can be derezzed) and, since they are lifeforms converted into data, they'd die. The Fcon Monster in the end of 2.0 is, however, sepparated from the accidental fusion and stored in an external HD.
All in all, I guess an user can be derezzed by anything that is not a program (weapons, enviroment), while programs can only disable them for a while. That would explain when Flynn distracted the MCP (entering in that cone allowed him to temporary spread through the cone and "control" MCP's shields.
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