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Jademz
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Got internet?

on Tuesday, September, 01, 2009 9:27 PM
http://www.nextgov.com/nextgov/ng_20090825_4908.php?oref=topnews
Shut down the internet? Does it need to be bailed out once shut down?

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Daddyo
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Re: Got internet?

on Tuesday, September, 01, 2009 10:48 PM
I already have the button


Of course the internets that critical, what isn't dependent on it? It's like taking gas off the pumps. Anarchy!!


 
Jademz
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on Tuesday, September, 01, 2009 11:14 PM
Yeah, and this would stop business. The Rockefeller-Snowe bill says it's to safeguard the public/private net, but I don't see it that way. This could be more detrimental if say other countries boycott the internet when someone decides one day to turn them off.

What would happen when that happens? Take a guess.

Perhaps one day you'd have a new service to compete with a weakened industry like our internet, from China further making a dent in our monthly bills.

I know other countries want to buy it, maybe this is helping increase the price.

Run the Net-neutrality video. heh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2YrZ2LxHbs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbroadbandforum.in%2Fnet-neutrality%2F43619-senator-internet-should-have-never-existed-net-shut-down%2F&feature=player_embedded
Shutting down TV. all digital media, your phone, your satellite, everything can be a threat..

Just thought I'd post an fyi for those afraid of an attack that's never happened in any scale worthy of mentioning, the infrastructure in place just gets better and better..

Just keep in mind this is a free republic, and they just took your internet like pulling a vault job, should this pass.

I don't see the reason. just wondering if anyone has a pov I may have missed.


 
tron_man_63304
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on Tuesday, September, 01, 2009 11:51 PM
the goverment would do it.

that is if there woudent be such an economical imapct imagen: all the internet taxes there woudent be for them to collect and, the companys that work on the internet like the stores target and wall-mart and, the moral of the people there would be riots im shure.

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Jademz
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Re: Got internet?

on Wednesday, September, 02, 2009 1:14 AM
When you look into it, the solution is internet 2, and it would be the next step in leveling yet another industry that makes our country great.

What made this country what it is, hard working inventive profiteers that used common sense to make a better world. That's the world I want to live in. Instead it's turned into chum for the sharks. Again, the argument is that when a small business wants to gain something, they are turned away, or bought outright, or left with no solution in the marketplace(in this case, possibly every internet business is altered forever). And what's left is a legacy of people asking themselves "what did that accomplish?".


 
KiaPurity
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Re: Got internet?

on Wednesday, September, 02, 2009 10:07 PM
...uh, wouldn't it be better to shut down government's servers *only* instead of trying to shut down the entirety of the internet? :V

It ain't happening as long as there's a massive network of computers connected to each other, you simply can't change what is now one massive huge beastly cluster of networking!

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Jademz
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Re: Got internet?

on Thursday, September, 03, 2009 6:49 PM
That's correct, from what I've read they'll work side by side.. but how long will you have a choice? It's known as IPv6, Mission Moonv6 and Internet2, it is also much easier to track what everyone in the network's privately doing.

Here's a good read on what's going on:

http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Internet/InternetII/Internet_IIwatching.html
A friend told me today one of the main reasons for the transition is the IPs on the current network, ipv4, is expected to run out of IPs very soon. So it's inevitable, but with IPv6 you're probably going to need a nice firewall, they say it's going to protect you.. hehe.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion


 
Compucore
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on Friday, September, 04, 2009 12:19 AM
From my understanding that is only related to the networks that are related to the states only. That go into the states only and out from a physical point. The internet is inter connected networks that span the globe entirely and not only in the States. And where it is already available and running in countries that are using it. Like Canada, Phillipines, Japan, Tiawan, Sweden, France, etc. It would be extremely hard to close down the entire internet from everywhere. If a part of t fails the rest is still running. It is not as if it is a local network within a physical wall and there are central servers taking care of it. Where it is more prone to fail.

And With The IPv4 I do agree that it is running short now of available IP'S. And IPv6 will help out as well with a new set of IP's that will be available. It is already running one OS's that can use either.Whether it is windows vista, Linux or Mac os that has it already installed already on their network adapters.

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Jademz
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Re: Got internet?

on Saturday, September, 05, 2009 11:11 PM
Compucore Wrote:From my understanding that is only related to the networks that are related to the states only. That go into the states only and out from a physical point. The internet is inter connected networks that span the globe entirely and not only in the States. And where it is already available and running in countries that are using it. Like Canada, Phillipines, Japan, Tiawan, Sweden, France, etc. It would be extremely hard to close down the entire internet from everywhere. If a part of t fails the rest is still running. It is not as if it is a local network within a physical wall and there are central servers taking care of it. Where it is more prone to fail.

Hmm, yeah good point Karl, but I wonder if other countries will band together for some agreements to be for or against such a move. It seems like a threat to them also, just think of what may happen globally should a country like the US has to close shop. I imagine the people on the protected service will have the same problem, since hackers consistently go after the big guys. I dunno if this makes sense... that's why I brought it up. When you listen to the rhetoric, it looks like they're porking up the whole use of the internet/internet2 for other reasons that enable them to get more control and monopolies over citizens. perhaps the definition of citizen should be changed to purposeful slave.

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ShadowDragon1
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Re: Got internet?

on Saturday, September, 05, 2009 11:19 PM
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Jademz
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Re: Got internet?

on Sunday, September, 06, 2009 1:11 AM
What will I do if I can't watch Bruce Lee play ping pong? hahaha.


 
Compucore
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Re: Got internet?

on Sunday, September, 06, 2009 1:48 PM
Yeah I know. But when you think of it THe internet in General and not to pin point it on anyone specific. The internet is meant for everyone to use. To whom who has access to it. The net in general is self moderated to a point where you have people like you, Davetron, myself. Who use it in good ways and see the brighter side of it. And keep on our white hats on when using it for good things. And others who are wearing their black hat see it as an open season for everyone and will use it to any means.

Now where it gets tricky here is how can you regulate something that spans the globe several times over via cables, satelites, and other telecommunications means at fiber optic speed of light. True you could limit access to certain extent. But at what cost to netcitizens. Would it be right to limit all access to do what we do on a daily basis or use it for what we need it for. And rules and regulations differ from country to country as well. It would be extremely hard to make a unuversal agreement on something like this where it would be acceptable for everyone.

It is like with the UN there are always going to be a lot of things that will have problems with agreement cause we all see things in a different point of view. And we all cannot say which one is right and which one is wrong. I'm just looking at it from a long standing view that I have seen what the internet has become when the popular form of communication was available before the internet became publice for everyone. And those were the good old Bulletin board Systems.

And since the internet is non-centralizd in comparison to the local area networks that are being used in the local offices, home networks, colleges, Universities. It is even harder to control th whole thing. Since there is no onesingle entity that takes control of the net. Look at the world wide web consortium who takes care of how webpages are being formated it for web pages temselves. http://www.w3.org/ and they deal wth just with html technology for web pages. They don't even deal the actual physical backbone of the net. or with other related items that makes the net as it is as a whole.

I remember when the net opened up there were many places like Compuserve, and others that tried to do this. Not many made it through with success.




Jademz Wrote:
Compucore Wrote:From my understanding that is only related to the networks that are related to the states only. That go into the states only and out from a physical point. The internet is inter connected networks that span the globe entirely and not only in the States. And where it is already available and running in countries that are using it. Like Canada, Phillipines, Japan, Tiawan, Sweden, France, etc. It would be extremely hard to close down the entire internet from everywhere. If a part of t fails the rest is still running. It is not as if it is a local network within a physical wall and there are central servers taking care of it. Where it is more prone to fail.

Hmm, yeah good point Karl, but I wonder if other countries will band together for some agreements to be for or against such a move. It seems like a threat to them also, just think of what may happen globally should a country like the US has to close shop. I imagine the people on the protected service will have the same problem, since hackers consistently go after the big guys. I dunno if this makes sense... that's why I brought it up. When you listen to the rhetoric, it looks like they're porking up the whole use of the internet/internet2 for other reasons that enable them to get more control and monopolies over citizens. perhaps the definition of citizen should be changed to purposeful slave.

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