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Cam_the_Man
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High-Voltage Expertise Needed

on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 12:28 AM

I've been toying with the idea of making a portable Jacob's Ladder, and was wondering if anyone could offer any input and suggestions. Thanks!


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Daddyo
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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 12:39 AM
I know a nut at work that makes big high voltage spinning things that meltdown, also 9volt (wherever he is) is big into that. I can ask.abortion pills online abortion pill online purchase cytotec abortion


 
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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 10:15 AM
On a side note, where has 9volt gone to? Can't remember the last time he posted something on these forums or on ldso.

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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 8:49 PM

Now that I have, let me go into further detail:
My intention is to create a sword out of a Jacob's ladder. The two key elements here are safety and portability.
I would prefer to have the long metal prongs exposed, but from the little research I've done it would seem that contact with the prongs would likely prove fatal, and my intention is not to hurt anyone (this is jsut a prop for a costume) My thoughts were that this could be easily remedied by adding a plexiglass shield around it, somewhat marring the effect, but making it safer.
The second factor, portability, is the one I'm most interested in. As mentioned earlier, the intent is a sword with a Jacob's Ladder as the blade. Ideally, I could conceal, say two D Cell Batteries or a a couple Nine-Volt Batteries in the hilt. Unfortunately, homebrew Jacob's Ladders tend to use neon-sign transformers or oil burn things to up the voltage to the neccessary requirements.
And I thought, would it be possible to use a lower voltage/amperage so that if you touched it, all you might get is a slight shock? And then I thought again, Taser's, as far as I can understand, ar essentially miniature Jacob's Ladders (I could be wrong on this) So what if I were to implement the technology of a taser into the hilt, and voila! But this again conflicts with the safety factor. Once more, I'd much rather have exposed metal wires, but I will encase in plexiglass if necessary.
So here's what I need, broken down:
1) It needs to have a small power supply, preferrably something hidden in the hilt such as D-Cell betteries
2) I need a small device which can up the voltage to necessary requirements
3) Though not neccessary, I'd prefer it to be exposed without inflicting anything more than maybe a slight shock.
So Daddyo, I'll take you up on that offer. I unfortunately have very little electrical expertise, and no one to guide me. Any other help and feedback would be much appreciated!
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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 9:19 PM
You may be able to do it safely if you can make the exterior plexiglass wrapped with small wire mesh that will ground the current on your costume.

I'm sure you've heard of a faraday cage. you'd need to figure out the max energy you can safely ground on your costume.. I don't know how to, but hope this is an extra clue for you.




Dataghost, I see 9V on MSN messenger, do you have his email?


 
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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 9:30 PM
Jademz Wrote:You may be able to do it safely if you can make the exterior plexiglass wrapped with small wire mesh that will ground the current on your costume.

I'm sure you've heard of a faraday cage. you'd need to figure out the max energy you can safely ground on your costume.. I don't know how to, but hope this is an extra clue for you.




Dataghost, I see 9V on MSN messenger, do you have his email?

Is the makeshift Faraday cage necessary? I would think that the plexiglass would act as a sufficient insulator, but I could be wrong.



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on Tuesday, July, 28, 2009 9:54 PM
you would have to use a translucent conductive film, however the amount of voltage a jacobs ladder could generate may just burn through it. I'm not an electrician, but that's where I'd start for something like this. you may also be able to use flexible double sided mirror to run along the back and the blade edge to be sure the current doesn't shock someone. This would have to be engineered carefully to make it safe, so hopefully you can find out what material will work.abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion


 
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on Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 6:07 PM
data_ghost Wrote:On a side note, where has 9volt gone to?


Did you know, I'm sure maybe you recall this. That 9 said Wendy Carlos has her entire studio wrapped in a faraday cage?

It prevents outside radio frequencies from interfering with the keyboards and electronics she uses to make music.

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Daddyo
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on Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 10:22 PM
Jademz Wrote:That 9 said Wendy Carlos has her entire studio wrapped in a faraday cage?
That was to keep out the negative brainwaves.

I'll ask and see what kind of laughs I get, except I think it's gonna hurt my reputation at work...


 
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on Wednesday, July, 29, 2009 10:30 PM
well we're talking about a different era in technology. Keep in mind - if you help invent hi tech, there are certain things that must be perfect.. To my knowledge, there were certain things interfering back in the day, when nobody used broadcast standards.

Maybe Tesla worked a few blocks away, who knows.


 
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