I know this is probably sacrilege but I have to say that I wasn't really looking forward to a TRON sequel! This was only because TRON, for me, was so perfect. I loved the vast, dark landscapes; the vehicles, especially the Light Cycles are perfect in form and function. The whole TRON universe is perfect. So how could it be updated without destroying the original? Especially given the changes in the computer games industry. I thought a TRON sequel would end up as a poor Matrix, but the trailer shows us that this is not the case. I love what I have seen so far. It really blew me away. I know that it's not easy to come up with second generation TRON vehicles and sets, but hats off to the visual artists, the new Cycle and 'Electronic World' are breathtaking. This has all got me wondering if their is a new Game Tank or Recognizer on the drawing board? So how about a fan art competition to let our imaginations go and see what we can come up with?

I am working on a TR2N recognizer .... what do we think?

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ed keefe Wrote:I know this is probably sacrilege but I have to say that I wasn't really looking forward to a TRON sequel! This was only because TRON, for me, was so perfect. I loved the vast, dark landscapes; the vehicles, especially the Light Cycles are perfect in form and function. The whole TRON universe is perfect. So how could it be updated without destroying the original? Especially given the changes in the computer games industry. I thought a TRON sequel would end up as a poor Matrix, but the trailer shows us that this is not the case. I love what I have seen so far. It really blew me away. I know that it's not easy to come up with second generation TRON vehicles and sets, but hats off to the visual artists, the new Cycle and 'Electronic World' are breathtaking. This has all got me wondering if their is a new Game Tank or Recognizer on the drawing board? So how about a fan art competition to let our imaginations go and see what we can come up with? I am working on a TR2N recognizer .... what do we think? ed

I was also very leery of a TRON sequel. Part of me really wanted one, but at the same time, I was really worried that they'd completely destroy all that I found cool about TRON in the first place and go for some kind of garbage presentation that only kids under 20 would dig.

I have mixed feelings about what I saw in the proof of concept footage. After my initial excitement over a sequel and some pretty slick visuals, I found myself really worried about some of the elements. I think things were a little too shiny and I'm really concerned about the 100% CGI characters. Even blurry and low-res - CLU's face didn't look right to me, at least not in motion. It had very fakey, unreal motion to it. Not unreal as in good because it's inside a digital world, but unreal as in not better than any standard video game cut scene. I really expect more from something touting the name "TRON" than a souped up gaming cut scene. I'm getting off subject here...

For the most part, I am very excited about the sequel and hoping they'll make TR2N as new and innovative in 2011 as TRON was in 1982. The POC footage was cool, but not above par with today's visuals in anything. They've got some time to raise the bar though.

I think fan art based on the POC footage is a cool and interesting thing to explore. Now that some of the visual aesthetics have been revealed - what will things like recognizers look like? Will there even be recognizers?

You know what I REALLY want to see?

Grid bugs!

Bet no one has though about exploring that one yet. Any takers? How 'bout you, ed keefe?

You've done an awesome job on the new light cycle - especially considering how blurry the only reference you have is.

I'm looking forward to your TR2N recognizer and anything else you come up with. You nailed the original TRON look so well and have a great start on TR2N.


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Daddyo Wrote: TheReelTodd Wrote:You know what I REALLY want to see? Grid bugs! That scene when these pop out in the original Tron were very cartoony, would be neat to see them in fully rendered action. Lasers on top of their heads haha

They looked awesome and were accurately animated in UserError.

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Son of Sark Wrote:I saw Bruce Boxleitner on the season premier of Heroes. I shouted " ALLEN ONE !". If the 3D graphics live up to the hype, I'm sure we can look forward to at least a trilogy box set many Christmas' from now !

TRON, TR2N, and TRON 2.0. That would be the best boxset evar.

TheReelTodd Wrote:I'm really concerned about the 100% CGI characters. Even blurry and low-res - CLU's face didn't look right to me, at least not in motion. It had very fakey, unreal motion to it. Not unreal as in good because it's inside a digital world, but unreal as in not better than any standard video game cut scene. I really expect more from something touting the name "TRON" than a souped up gaming cut scene.

That, my friend, is called the "uncanny valley". When something isn't stylized enough or not real enough, but is in a disturbing place between the two. A lot of CGI films are located here. Let's hope TR2N won't be.

They hired the costume designer from 300, according to cirlin's post in the TR2N News thread. Perhaps the programs will be completely live action?

Based on what I saw, the character models for those programs in the trailer were probably the most convincing humanoid characters I've ever seen.

As much as I - and all of us - wanted a sequel, I've always had this nagging doubt in the back of my mind saying: "maybe we'd be better off without one, because Disney will screw it up!"

Based on the teaser, my feelings are mixed. For the most part, it looks good. Already bringing Jeff Bridges back for just a teaser was a ballsy move, and I really appreciate that. It speaks volumes about where the sequel is headed. Flynn is definitely back.

The CGI is cool, and some parts of it are actually very faithful to Syd Mead's original concepts. Some people probably don't know that the Light Cycles we saw in the film, were actually not Syd's first design for them. He had to simplify the design because the CGI techniques at the time couldn't handle his first, more complex, design. Now, the teaser executed his original design perfectly.

But I'm not sure about all-CGI characters, and about how real some of the electronic world looks. I'd prefer if it had a tad more of a retro look, more like the original film.

All in all, I'm more hopeful than despaired about a sequel at this point. It looks like Disney might not "screw it up", after all.

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I have mixed feelings about what I saw in the proof of concept footage. After my initial excitement over a sequel and some pretty slick visuals, I found myself really worried about some of the elements. I think things were a little too shiny and I'm really concerned about the 100% CGI characters. Even blurry and low-res - CLU's face didn't look right to me, at least not in motion. It had very fakey, unreal motion to it.


Weird, because I thought that was the only element that was actually shot with a camera...