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Re: The decline of Hannah Montana?

on Saturday, November, 01, 2008 11:26 AM
Great, now the bottom of this thread will be forever-littered with Miley Cyrus ads, lol.


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Re: The decline of Hannah Montana?

on Saturday, November, 01, 2008 5:49 PM
*fans Todd's face*

Incoming oxygen!

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lurkinghorror
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Re: The decline of Hannah Montana?

on Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:00 PM
KiaPurity Wrote:Just that you know, if you rail against it, I mean, what is that going to change?

Like I said, it's fun. Real change does not come from complaining. I'm well aware of that. If you dislike something, the only reasonable method to effect change is to create material that you feel is of higher quality. Which is one of the reasons I started doing all ages material (pretty much all my non-Tron work is for all ages). I'm not sure I have succeded or failed at creating something that IS better. I just know that it is the type of stuff that I like better.

In short, I'm not looking or expecting to change things by poking fun at them or railing against them. That's just for fun. Which we all gotta have sometimes.

TheReelTodd Wrote:
It certainly says a lot about where a culture is by watching the trends and collective mindset of those who are in to [whatever]. I find it amusing and scary at the same time.

It certainly can be scary. Watching the evolving fascination with Britney Spears is a good example. People loved to watch her climb and then relished in her fall. We prop these people up just so we can take great pleasure in tearing them down. What it says about us as a culture is far more enlightening than what it says about the individuals we're focusing on.





 
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Re: The decline of Hannah Montana?

on Saturday, November, 01, 2008 8:57 PM
TRON.dll Wrote:Great, now the bottom of this thread will be forever-littered with Miley Cyrus ads, lol.



I was just noticing that and thinking the same thing. I mean, this website is the LAST place on earth one would expect to see those kinds of ads. But there they are. Oh well. Our own fault.


KiaPurity Wrote:*fans Todd's face*

Incoming oxygen!

Thank you, KiaPurity.

I was a bit on the tired side last night when I was posting here. I think that had something to do with it. But that seriously had me cracking up. Sometimes you just gotta laugh, right?


lurkinghorror Wrote:...It certainly can be scary. Watching the evolving fascination with Britney Spears is a good example. People loved to watch her climb and then relished in her fall. We prop these people up just so we can take great pleasure in tearing them down. What it says about us as a culture is far more enlightening than what it says about the individuals we're focusing on.

I was never a Britney Spears fan. For a long time I've wondered why she's been such a big focus in the (celebrity-chasing) media. It seemed like if she sneezed, there was a story about it - why? Never got it. Not being a Britney fan (not hating her or anything at the same time) I did get annoyed with all the coverage the media gave her. It made me wonder what the big deal was and why make celebrities out to be such hugely important things (they seem to do that with many of them). I kept waiting for her to fade out of popularity, but there seems to be no end in sight. Any "trouble" she gets in just seems to fuel the media's obsession with her... or perhaps the media is just giving the public what it wants, although I know of a good deal of people who do NOT care for such celebrity coverage in the news.

I don't know what it is. Do the same people who "loved" Brittney (or similar star) really love her so much to bring her in to such popularity and then just completely turn? Or is it something else? Maybe some people always love her and then there are those who never like her who seem to be enjoying her being painted in a bad light these days? Or perhaps it's just a matter of jealous girls who are tired of their guys thinking she's hot or something? Or perhaps it's just the joy of watching the rich and famous being turned in to real-life soap operas for the entertainment of those who follow that kind of thing. Whatever.

It's sad, really. Crap like this (the media's and public's obsession with celebrity gossip) really embarrasses me. I mean, I feel embarrassed by how my fellow Americans (or broader: westerners) treat things like this. I hope people of other cultures/societies (places that do not worship celebrity gossip) understand that we're not ALL like that.







 
KiaPurity
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Re: The decline of Hannah Montana?

on Saturday, November, 01, 2008 9:38 PM
What you guys said got me thinking a lot.

I believe the media fascination about celebrity has always existed even way back to dawn of the time.

Example in question: Evelyn Nesbit --- most of you would not have known who she is except if I mentioned "Gibson's Girl" and that might trigger something familiar--

She was the It Girl in the 1900's before the It Girl term was born. Popularly modeled for artists and photographers. Her "fall" was from her first husband having shot a man who seduced her (she was quite effectively a jailbait) and "abandoned her". The media had a field day with her when her first husband was arrested.

Holy crap, the things I learn from reading history books. @_@

To be honest, I do feel sorry for celebrities who never get a break from the media's feeding frenzy but at the same time, just sigh if it's people like Paris Hilton who thrives on it!

Lurking- ...though, yeah, I do see what you mean about railing just for some sort of outlet... I've tried to keep myself from doing it too much because it seemed a little silly (at least to me) to be constantly angry about things I'm unable to change. I like to be able to effect a sort of change if it's gonna help for the better. (I'm not sure if I'm explaining this clearly.)

Todd- the weird things we do when we're tired, huh? :-P

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