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Boingo_Buzzard
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My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 10:49 AM

OK... unrelated Tron rant time.

I got my wife a PDA for Christmas and was surprised to find that this little device can hook to the Internet and download games and additional content.

It got me to thinking that I feel that Sony has missed a HUGE boat here with the fact that the PSP's Internet relation is severely under developed and non-existant. The web broswer supplied with it is feeble, and there is no web site to connect to and download additional content like games or applications. Not even music and movies.

The Ipod can. PDA's can. Why not the PSP? We get proprietary UMD's, while Ipod users can download TV shows now. Sony however expends a great amount of time in blocking Homebrew developers. Isn't that a clue that a market exists for this kind of stuff??!

Don't get me wrong... I love my PSP, but I want the ability to download content like you can on a cell phone,PDA,or Ipod. Sony is really missing the big picture here.



 
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on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 1:32 PM

not all it's cracked up to be, is it?

i'm still saving to splash out on one though [psp, not PDA]

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on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 3:47 PM
Personally, I think that all cellphones, IPods, PSPs, and any other small gadgets will merge into a super-PDA. They're all just computers anyway. Still, I love having a laptop that has a full screen and I'm not afraid to sit on it in my back pocket (ex. IPod Nano). Don't get me wrong. There is some awesome technology out there. I just don't need all of it.

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Boingo_Buzzard
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 4:21 PM
Maybe someone heard me:
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Microsoft and Sony partner in video download service
Posted on Wed 4 Jan 2006, 3:17 AM

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Cable network Starz! has just announced that they'll partner with Microsoft and Sony to form Vongo, a legal, pay-for-play movie download service. For a $9.99 service fee per month, Vongo users will obtain unlimited access to a rotating 1,000 film library, likely culled from Starz! current catalog. They'll be able to watch those downloads at any time on a PC or portable media device (presumably that means iPods, PSPs, etc), and will be able to download "new releases" (theatrical features will be available for download after a six month window) for $3.99 apiece. Though the service will obviously draw instant comparisons to the iTunes Music Store, which just started selling television shows for $1.99 an episode with a one day window, to VOD services like GreenCine and Movielink, and to traditional models of television-based pay-per-view, Vongo would seem to go beyond old methods of delivery in terms of its breadth of content alone. But that six month window seems terribly wide, doesn't it? Especially considering that, with the backing of Microsoft and Sony, Vongo will undoubtedly be marketed to PSP and Xbox-rocking gamers. Bill Gates is expected to expand on the deal and the concept in his CES keynote this week.

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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 6:34 PM
I suppose one of the problems is that the default card that comes with PSP is too small for movies and games (unless they're 8-bit games...)

Gotta buy that 1 gb memory card. @_@

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TheReelTodd
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 7:20 PM
I don't have a PSP, but I share in your anger over this kind of crap. Many of today's "modern" gadgets are capable of doing far more than they actually do. Note the quotes around "modern". Today's cutting edge gadgets are often years behind where the real cutting edge technology is over seas - and it's usually because companies choose to hold back on things to keep the pay-for-play profit as high as possible.

Remember when the internet really took off in the early-mid 90's? You had to pay for each hour of use. In time, it became more affordable and also the fee per hour went away (for most ISP's).

Today we have mobile devices and communicators (cell phones for you non-Trekkies) and the likes that have the ability to connect to the internet and download games and other goodies. And here we are, 10 years in the past with pay-by-the-minute use, or pay-by-download use, etc. It costs a freakin' quarter for me to send a low-resolution photo from my communicator to another communicator... and it costs a quarter for the guy on the receiving end of it too. Sending images and text messages takes up a small fraction of the bandwidth of using the comm for voice communication... and yet they CHARGE you MORE for it? Um... WTF?

Some comms even have a lot of features that never get used because some comm services make you PAY to use the built-in features in the damn comm YOU paid for in the first place. Really - WTF!!!

And of course, our comms are well behind the level of features of the comms over on the other side of the great pond. Why? Our wonderful wireless providers want to enjoy slowly releasing new features over time, so they can soak you for every little step of the way. Or so that is exactly what it looks like and seems very logical and very sad.

Anyway, if your PSP has little web browsing capabilities and yet it has more than enough power on the tech end to handle the net, what does that tell you? Sony are idiots? Or perhaps there is profit to be made by limiting what the PSP can do right now.

Think about it.

Bastards.

I hate when any entity holds back technology simply to soak consumers and because it is profitable for them to do so. And I just don't get it. Would it not be a SH-TLOAD MORE profitable to release things loaded to the gills with features? I bet more people would find ways to afford toys if they did more. But it looks like they want to take the slow road.

Come on - let's let technology move forward a little faster. I'm not getting any younger!
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Wednesday, January, 04, 2006 8:59 PM
TheReelTodd Wrote:
Anyway, if your PSP has little web browsing capabilities and yet it has more than enough power on the tech end to handle the net, what does that tell you?

I'm sure they feel that if people sit in the Barnes And Noble wi-fi hotspot on their PSP and surf the net, they're not at Software Etc. buying PSP games.

Greed.


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Qix77
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Thursday, January, 05, 2006 2:50 AM
I never really cared for PDAs or for Sony much. But then again, I don't buy game concels either. I'm Ultra PC gamer.

.... so give me a labtop over a PSP or PDA any day.

Oh... and will someone please explain to Sony that I'm not going to buy their damned mini-discs? I've had ample time and huge deforestations of magazine ads to help me make up my mind and it's just not going to happen. I will not take them to a club, I will not -- Damn it, I almost went into a Seuss Fugue.


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flynn1978
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Thursday, January, 05, 2006 3:44 AM
PSP's awright w/me...

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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Thursday, January, 05, 2006 12:49 PM


TheReelTodd Wrote:Some comms even have a lot of features that never get used because some comm services make you PAY to use the built-in features in the damn comm YOU paid for in the first place. Really - WTF!!!
Brutal, isn't it? I mean, I recently got a new cell phone, and know for a fact that half its features are disabled by the carrier right out of the box.

For example, they've disabled the ability for you to connect it to your PC. Because they don't want you to be able to download stuff to your PC for free (ringtones, images, etc.), and then transfer it over to the phone.

So unless you want to pay through the nose for these features, you need to hack your phone. LOL . . . can you believe it? Hacking isn't just for computers any more! It's ridiculous.



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Boingo_Buzzard
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Thursday, January, 05, 2006 1:29 PM
flynn1978 Wrote:PSP's awright w/me...

The PSP itself is a gorgeous piece of hardware. It's the business decisions behind it which is keeping it down.





 
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Friday, January, 06, 2006 9:56 AM


Complain and ye shall receive :

PSP to Connect in March
Posted on Thu 5 Jan 2006, 8:59 PM

Source: Gamespot

When Sony launched its Connect music-download service in May 2004, it was with the obvious intention to try and take down Apple's iTunes service. Nearly 20 months later, iTunes is breaking records, while Connect--which uses Sony's proprietary, non-iPod-compatible ATRAC3 audio format--is used by only a tiny sliver of the market.


Yesterday evening at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, Sony executives announced that in March, the company will relaunch a new version of Connect. The revamped service will offer movies, video, and games for download onto Sony's multimedia and gaming portable, the PSP.

"Soon, Sony will be rewriting the rules once again," the company said in a statement. "The Connect service will enable you to download hundreds of videos, games, and TV shows as well as films and other content. You'll even be able to browse from a wide selection of books."
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Friday, January, 06, 2006 5:11 PM
redrain85 Wrote:

TheReelTodd Wrote:Some comms even have a lot of features that never get used because some comm services make you PAY to use the built-in features in the damn comm YOU paid for in the first place. Really - WTF!!!
Brutal, isn't it? I mean, I recently got a new cell phone, and know for a fact that half its features are disabled by the carrier right out of the box.

For example, they've disabled the ability for you to connect it to your PC. Because they don't want you to be able to download stuff to your PC for free (ringtones, images, etc.), and then transfer it over to the phone.

I use Verizon. They offer a cable and software that allows you to transfer your address book back and forth to your PC. It also allows the use of the communicator for internet service. It's really slow, but it works. The software with cable costs $50.00. Ouch. But I got it anyway.

Now, the software provided does not allow for the transfer of pictures or ring tones or anything like that. Verizon wants to charge you for those features EACH and EVERY time you use them.

BUT I found a little thing called "Data Pilot" offered by Susteen.

http://www.datapilot.com
They offer cables and software for almost all current communicators out there now. The cool thing is I already had my cable, so I only had to get the software, which was about $30.00 if memory serves. It was worth it though because now I can swap pictures back and forth WITHOUT the stupid charge every time - and I take a LOT of pictures! I can also convert MIDI files in to ring tones! It's the coolest thing! I can even edit the ring tones before uploading them to my phone, or compose new ones from scratch!

Check them out. Since your wireless provider wants to soak you (as does mine), look in to other solutions and unlock some of your communicator's wonderful features.
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Friday, January, 06, 2006 5:12 PM
Boingo_Buzzard Wrote:

Complain and ye shall receive :

PSP to Connect in March
Posted on Thu 5 Jan 2006, 8:59 PM

Source: Gamespot

..."Soon, Sony will be rewriting the rules once again," the company said in a statement. "The Connect service will enable you to download hundreds of videos, games, and TV shows as well as films and other content. You'll even be able to browse from a wide selection of books."

Excellent!

Better late than never, right?



 
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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Friday, January, 06, 2006 8:06 PM


TheReelTodd Wrote:BUT I found a little thing called "Data Pilot" offered by Susteen.

http://www.datapilot.com
They offer cables and software for almost all current communicators out there now. The cool thing is I already had my cable, so I only had to get the software, which was about $30.00 if memory serves. It was worth it though because now I can swap pictures back and forth WITHOUT the stupid charge every time - and I take a LOT of pictures! I can also convert MIDI files in to ring tones! It's the coolest thing! I can even edit the ring tones before uploading them to my phone, or compose new ones from scratch!

Check them out. Since your wireless provider wants to soak you (as does mine), look in to other solutions and unlock some of your communicator's wonderful features.
Thanks for that tip! And heck, they even have a Canadian version. Imagine that!

Yeah, I'm with Telus . . . they're basically the leading cell phone provider in Canada. I like their service (good network and reception), and they usually provide some of the best phones, but they love to nickel-and-dime you to death with any extra features outside of the basic ones.

I don't have a problem with paying for stuff like downloadable games or other applets, and paying for web surfing. But for even the most basic things, like being able to share pictures you've taken with the phone's camera . . . that's a bit much.


Getting back to the original topic, I think maybe Sony is starting to wise up a little. The whole DRM rootkit fiasco probably gave them a rude awakening, that they can't keep trying to force propietary or restrictive things on to their customers. They need to open up the PSP platform, not keep it locked up tight. And the same goes for anything else they plan to sell.



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on Tuesday, January, 10, 2006 1:34 PM
if any1 intrested there is a free ATARI 2600 emulator with 41 GAMES for any psp runnin 1.5 software.

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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Tuesday, January, 10, 2006 3:10 PM
TRONwell Wrote:if any1 intrested there is a free ATARI 2600 emulator with 41 GAMES for any psp runnin 1.5 software.

I was into the emulator scene for the PSP for a while. The Sega Genesis emulator is also an awesome PSP conversion. Plays at full speed with sound and supports most ROMS. The MAME emulator crashed on me repeatedly, and I only ever managed to get Galaga working.

I never tried the GBA emulator because I heard it was buggy and slow.

Most of the LUA games run perfectly (Tetris, Chess, etc etc).

I never could get Doom or Quake to run.

Finally, I upgraded to 2.0 (which can still load some stuff thanks to an eboot loader developed that runs off the image exploit) but never really was into the homebrew scene after that. Since then I've gotten some great games for the PSP that keep my attention and I haven't missed homebrew at all.

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KiaPurity
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on Tuesday, January, 10, 2006 5:36 PM
I'm still waiting for a fully compatiable C64 emulator for the PSP.

(pspvice... right now, it works with 1.5... and maybe 2.0 but still waiting on that.)

I need to get a bigger memory stick so I can get c64 roms on it. :x

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Re: My BEEF with Sony and the PSP

on Tuesday, January, 10, 2006 5:42 PM
KiaPurity Wrote:I'm still waiting for a fully compatiable C64 emulator for the PSP.

(pspvice... right now, it works with 1.5... and maybe 2.0 but still waiting on that.)

I need to get a bigger memory stick so I can get c64 roms on it. :x

Wow... Vice ported itself to the PSP? Impressive...

That reminds me... I have to upgrade my vice emu.....


 
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