kirinke
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Posts: 0 | Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:00 PM
I know that there are Tron sequel scripts out there that haven't been made into anything; some even done by Steven Lisenburger. Instead of just letting them languish, why not turn them into fanfiction? I mean turning them into a literal story and submitting them to fanfiction.net. This sight is probly one of the largest fanfiction sites on the net and by posting there, you will reach a wider audience. Which would be excellent for the franchise.
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,315 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:07 PM
If only we could.
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Compucore
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on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:12 PM
I would agree with you on that one Davetron. Only if we could. But due to Disney and all that. Its not possible right davetron?
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kirinke
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Posts: 0 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:14 PM
Why not? If nothing else it will generate some interest in the movie. Plus, the folks at fanfiction.net do give out fairly good critism. And if you make the standard disclaimers, I don't see what would be wrong with it. After all, Disney really looses nothing by it and gains quite a bit in the longrun.where to buy abortion pill http://blog.bitimpulse.com/template/default.aspx?abortion-types buy abortion pill online
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wwwmwww
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Posts: 1,230 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:22 PM
Well here is a quote from JMS
| Further, because writers own the scripts they write under the WGA's Separation of Rights provision, you can take comfort in the fact that this is proper, as opposed to a script vendor who sells scripts without legal rights to do so. |
JMS has sold may of the scripts he's written so it's my understand that if Steven wanted to sell the scripts he's written he could. However any chance of that script getting produced after he takes an action like that is zero so I can see why he might not want to. Then again the chance maybe zero already, if so I hope its something he'd consider.
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kirinke
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Posts: 0 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:30 PM
So basically, if they decide to turn a script that Disney has in fact turned down already into a story and then submit it to a public site like fanfiction.net, they won't make it into a movie?
I mean it's not like you're selling the script, you are simply modifying it. By posting it on fanfiction.net, it is still your story. The site doesn't own it at all.
Is something screwy here, or has my memory been infected with a virus?
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wwwmwww
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Posts: 1,230 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 8:44 PM
We I'm no expert but the way I understand it is that Disney in this case would own the "story". Steven since he wrote the script owns and could sell the script. If he tried to modify it into something other then a script I think he'd have to go through Disney. I doubt Disney would be interested in producing a script that had already been sold to the public.
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kirinke
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Posts: 0 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 9:02 PM
On the other hand, they could just turn the script into an actual book and try to sell it to the mainstream. That might work too.
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wwwmwww
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Posts: 1,230 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 9:31 PM
Disney would have to commission such a book be written. As I understand it that isn't something Steven could do on his own. If that's what you want the question then becomes how does one get Disney to commission the book? And does Steven want to write such a book?
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DaveTRON
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Posts: 5,315 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 9:54 PM
Simply put, Disney owns TRON and all of the official scripts that have been written for it.
I've asked Steven if I coul share some of the scripts, and the answer is definitely no. It would put him at risk, and this site too most likely.
Keep in mind, all Disney has to do is put a little pressure in the right place and TS goes away.
Having sat and listened to Steven and seeing him put a story together, it's a crime that the world doesn't get to hear these stories, but I will never put my friendship with him at risk by posting them anywhere.
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kirinke
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Posts: 0 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Sunday, October, 09, 2005 9:57 PM
No problem.
I don't want to violate any laws or anything, and I doubt that you would either. I just didn't understand what the big deal was. Gah. Big corporations. They tend to put a crimp in anything.
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Trace
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on Monday, October, 10, 2005 1:03 AM
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wwwmwww
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Posts: 1,230 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Monday, October, 10, 2005 10:20 AM
| DaveTRON Wrote:Simply put, Disney owns TRON and all of the official scripts that have been written for it. |
That's NOT how I understand the WGA Separation of Rights provision. Disney should own TRON, it's storys, it's characters, etc. However the author should own any copies of the scripts he has written.
Check out JMS's post here:
http://jmsnews.net/msg.aspx?id=1-17385
This is in reference to the Babylon 5 scripts he has written and is about to offer for sale here:
http://babylon5scripts.com/
JMS has sold his scripts though the Babylon 5 fan club, at conventions, as part of his script writting book, on eBay. Hmmm... that's all I can think of at the moment. He's even offered scripts for free to his fans through the lamented site bookshelf.com. He doesn't own Babylon 5 either so I don't see how his situation should differ from Steven's. I can see however why Steven might not want to sell his scipts if he thinks there is any chance of it ever being produced. Dave if what you say is correct I'm curious how Disney is able to get around the WGA Separation of Rights provision.
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DaveTRON
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on Monday, October, 10, 2005 10:38 AM
I am not a lawyer. I am only repeating what I have been told, and I probably don't have all the facts exactly right.
However, in order for Steven to stay in Disney's good graces, and potentially get another film made, I do not think he sees it as a wise move to put the scripts under consideration out into the public eye.
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wwwmwww
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Posts: 1,230 | Re: Scripts to fanfiction
on Monday, October, 10, 2005 12:26 PM
| DaveTRON Wrote:I am not a lawyer. I am only repeating what I have been told... |
I'm not either so I certainly could be wrong. JMS has talked about this topic several times on line however the only real info I have of Steven's situation has come from you. There certainly could be some issue I'm unaware of that makes his situation different then JMS, I simply don't know.
| DaveTRON Wrote:However, in order for Steven to stay in Disney's good graces, and potentially get another film made, I do not think he sees it as a wise move to put the scripts under consideration out into the public eye. |
I could certainly understand that.
| DaveTRON Wrote:Perhaps after one gets made, but not before? |
Legally I don't think that makes a difference. JMS has recently sold his unproduced "V" script on eBay. However that was over 10 years after he wrote it and I'm sure he's given up on any chance of seeing it produced. He also offered 2 unproduced Cursade scripts to fans free on bookshelf.com after the series was cancelled. At the time there still was some hope that someone would pick up the series again and if that had happened it would have been the only case I'm aware of a script geting produced after it had been available to the public. But yes, from a relations standpoint, I'm sure its easier to sell the scripts after they are produced. For example if Steven wanted to sell signed scripts of the TRON we've all come to know and love I certainly think he could without fear of falling from the good graces of Disney.
Carl
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