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Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Monday, January, 03, 2005 3:51 AM
is this counted as three states? not just positive/negative?

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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- righ

on Monday, January, 03, 2005 5:53 AM
Yes, Bit is postive and negative.

However, the actual bit can read 1 and 0...

And Byte in Tron 2.0 can actually speak... I'm not sure about its real world counterpart. XP

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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Monday, January, 03, 2005 11:35 AM
Bytes contain one character. Byte must be doing some rapid state changes to speak.


 
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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Monday, January, 03, 2005 3:09 PM


It's a fuzzy bit!

I guess we're meant to interpret that as Off, 1, and 0.



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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Tuesday, January, 04, 2005 1:51 PM
I think that "third state" is just what a bit looks like when not being querried; you don't know what state it's in (1 or 0, on or off) until you querry it, so until you querry it you see its inbetween state.

As to why the byte can talk, well the bit is smart enough to understand a question, but can only answer yes or no. I'm guessing putting eight bits together to make a byte somehow allows it to say more than yes and no.on line abortion pill misoprostol dose abortion medical abortion pill onlinewhere to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Friday, January, 07, 2005 2:21 AM
I'm guessing this might end up like a discussion about weather viruses are alive or dead.

I love byte.

I think it's cool that in the TRON 2.0 killer App for GBA Tron has bit and Mercury has byte.


 
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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Friday, January, 07, 2005 7:43 AM
Well basic computer binary code yes. 8 bits equal 1 byte so yes. when we first saw bit in the original film it could only say either yes or no. Just two simple states when querried. And a third to make sure that it was still active. Kind of like a sleep state almost. A bit you can do more than a byte. since its kind of stringing along the anwser to the query itself I guess in the game. But thats just my opinion to it over here.





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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Friday, January, 07, 2005 10:52 AM
In truth, it should be in it's Zero state while waiting for data. A bit is always in Zero unless it's turned on then it is One. But that might look wierd on film.


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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Friday, January, 07, 2005 12:51 PM
Thats true SCSI. It would look weird. I guess they also make an exception to it as well to it. Not everyone know this as common knowldge. We all learn something new everyday.



Scuzzy Wrote:In truth, it should be in it's Zero state while waiting for data. A bit is always in Zero unless it's turned on then it is One. But that might look wierd on film.


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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Friday, January, 07, 2005 3:04 PM
If the bit were always 'yes' or always 'no' until it said 'yes' or 'no' again, it would be visually dull. The wait state between 'yes' and 'no' makes the bit more interesting.
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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- righ

on Saturday, January, 08, 2005 4:47 AM
A quantum bit perhaps?



 
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Re: Might have been posted before. Bit = +/- right?

on Monday, January, 10, 2005 5:53 PM
I'm chiming in a little late on this, but I'm with the visualization theorists (and kind of what they said in the commentary on the DVD).

If you're displaying "Bit" as a visualization, kind of like you're displaying "yes" and "no" as a visualization, it's logical to have a dormant or waiting state (image #1 above) of neither yes or no.

Kind of like a "yes" light and a "no" light. If someone is asked something and must respond to the question with a positive response of "yes" or a negative response of "no", then it makes more sense to not have either of those lights active, until a positive yes or negative no has been selected, and then to have the lights remain inactive again until the next question.

In visualizing a bit, the same applies. In the visualization of Bit, image #1 is not really a third state so much as it is simply the representation of Bit's existing in cyberspace.

That's how I've always taken it

BTW - this conversation is about a 9 out of 10 on the computer geek scale. It was a fun one, wasn't it?
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