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KingJ.exe
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Dating Events

on Wednesday, August, 21, 2013 7:51 AM
So I've noticed something. The dates on the wiki are horribly inconsistent. One page will give one date, another gives a different date for the same event.

So I went and I decided to try to figure out exactly WHEN the filmmakers set different defining events. Mainly, I just wanted to know my birthday in Tron Cycles. :P

So here's how I figured things. There are three assumptions needed. Assumption 1:
The date shown at the beginning of every TRON: Uprising episode (at the top next to the words Matrix Blaster and Space Paranoids) is the last date that Flynn rezzed into the Grid.

Assumption 2: An entire cycle had yet to pass between the creation of Anon and the Coup.

Assumption 3: The time screensaver seen in Legacy is accurate.

So, with those three assumptions out of the way, we can start to do calculations.

I used the Tron Cycle conversion chart from on the wiki.

Using TC 301 (Anon's creation date) as the date of the Coup in Tron Cycles, and November 3rd, 1989 as the final rez date of Flynn (The date from the Tron: Uprising opener), we get a start date for the Grid, by subtracting 1 TC from the date (According to the TRON: Evolution TRON files, they start at 1, not zero) and converting 300 TCs into days, then working the days backwards, accounting for the leap years 1984 and 1988.

November 5th, 1983 is the start date for the Grid.

From the same date for the Coup, we can figure out when Legacy happened, using the screensaver running on Flynn's terminal. The time given is 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and some other random time that according to IMDB, updates 15 times per second. That came out to October 25, 2010.

I could not find any official evidence that Sam's pranks on ENCOM corresponded every year to the anniversary of Flynn's disappearance, what I believe is more likely is that he pulled something at big events, like the Space Paranoids Online and Encom OS12 releases.

Thus, The Grid was created November 5th, 1983, the Coup happened and Flynn disappeared November 3rd, 1989, and TRON: Legacy happened October 25th, 2010.


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Kat
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RE: Dating Events

on Wednesday, August, 21, 2013 8:56 PM
(Brief hijack)

I'd like to think he pulls the pranks on the anniversary every year. However, if this is the case, or even if they're as predictable as centering on major events for the company, why do they do nothing to prevent it? We assume this has been going on for several years. Yet Alan's the only one in T:L who figures out what's going on, and even the security guard seems surprised. Hell, even the police bring out the big guns as if Sam's pulling a terrorist action with accomplices rather than a one-dude publicity stunt, even though it's implied later they're well-acquainted with him. So I wonder if the dates aren't mostly random?where to buy abortion pill ordering abortion pills to be shipped to house buy abortion pill online

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KingJ.exe
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RE: Dating Events

on Wednesday, August, 21, 2013 11:40 PM
That is possible, I simply said it was probably more likely to correspond to a big release, simply because of the lager amount of press it would generate. That video of Marvin went all over the world! And yes, I like to think that he did it on the anniversary too, but that doesn't have to be the ONLY times he does it. The dating method still holds true, so long as he doesn't ONLY do it on the anniversary.

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Tzigone
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RE: Dating Events

on Tuesday, August, 27, 2013 6:13 PM
I could not find any official evidence that Sam's pranks on ENCOM corresponded every year to the anniversary of Flynn's disappearance, what I believe is more likely is that he pulled something at big events, like the Space Paranoids Online and Encom OS12 releases.
I strongly dislike the idea of the the pranks always being on the anniversary, because (as mentioned earlier) it makes no sense that ENCOM wouldn't have stronger security that day, or even that they would be insane enough to schedule the OS12 release on that day.

"The Next Day" shows memos saying that November 29, 1990 is "just over a year" since Flynn disappeared, so that fits nicely with the early November date you posted, though I don't count "Uprising," myself (I have issue with Tron not being captured permanently in the scene we saw in the movie, as I understand to be what Uprising said). Dvd extras also put the pranked Space Paranoids online press conference on April 02, 2010 (which, I guess has its own issues if the movie is also in 2010, because then "once a year" for checking in isn't technically correct).abortion pills online http://www.kvicksundscupen.se/template/default.aspx?abortion-questions cytotec abortion


 
KingJ.exe
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RE: Dating Events

on Tuesday, August, 27, 2013 11:47 PM
Tzigone, Uprising says that Tron was captured in the coup, and tortured. He escaped later with the help of a sentry that disliked what they were doing. And actually, the sentry did all the work... :P

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Tzigone
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RE: Dating Events

on Thursday, August, 29, 2013 2:44 PM
oops doubled posted (and caught/corrected and error before the second one, so I'm keeping it)

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Tzigone
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RE: Dating Events

on Thursday, August, 29, 2013 2:45 PM
KingJ.exe Wrote:Tzigone, Uprising says that Tron was captured in the coup, and tortured. He escaped later
I know that - it's why I used the word "permanently." It doesn't work for me. It's one of those things that's technically possible, but not consistent with the story presented in Legacy, as I perceive it.


 
Traahn
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RE: Dating Events

on Saturday, August, 31, 2013 12:44 AM
If it helps any, here are some cycle conversion discussions. Might make your work tougher, though, as I seem to remember different 'official' Tron places reporting the length of a cycle differently than others. But you might enjoy reading, if nothing else...

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http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=398787
* http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=388222&pg=1
* http://www.tron-sector.com/forums/default.aspx?a=top&id=396029
* http://tron-legacy.livejournal.com/131744.html

Here was one of my posts from one of those threads...

"While 28 years have passed in the real world, over 1000 years have passed in the TRON one."

Source:
Tron: The Official Site (Codex) - http://disney.go.com/tron/html/codex/tron-universe.html


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"For every Gregorian Year that passes in the real world, 50 TC (Tron Cycles) have passed on the Grid."

Source:
Tron - The Official Site (Lightcycle Game): http://disney.go.com/tron/index_flash.html





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"...(W)hen we quantify electrical impulses, those speeds are over 1,000 greater - so, if life could exist in a purely digital form, that organism would experience 1,000 years for every one year of our time on earth. When I work on my special project, it's as if time stands still in the "real world." Sam's grandparents can sit with him while I toil for what seems like a week, but when I return, they barely notice I've gone."

Source:
time.theory.compare.notes at http://www.helloflynn.com/



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