Tzigone Wrote:I, however, do not want to see Quorra do lots cutesy discovery stuff. Some discovery is fine, but not really any more than Sam had for the grid, as she had as much exposure to our-world concepts as he did to the Grid - more really. And I don't want her to come off as a ditz or be played for slapstick. She also shouldn't blurt out secrets or grid stuff or hug everyone she meets or any of that stuff.

This. I've read a lot of fanfic that brings programs into the real world, and an awful lot of it turns otherwise-grown-ass programs into children. Look, I'm never going to get behind a world-weary, ass-kicking security program {Tron}, or a bad guy who was clever enough to keep himself in power for a thousand years {Clu}, acting like Forrest Gump just because they've been tossed into an unfamiliar environment.

Is there an AWFUL lot a program will need to get used to out here? Of course. But it doesn't mean they'll lose their personality or intellect, FFS. I think it's a fine line to walk between Forrest Gump who acts like a five-year-old at the zoo for the first time, and an all-too-knowing Mary Sue who takes everything in stride way too well, which is why I think it's better for them not to even attempt it...

I think Quorra is especially difficult, because the writers of T:L itself turned her into a sort of dichotomy. Is she the wide-eyed and naive character who asks Sam about Jules Verne, or is she the one who kicks ass and can {calmly} verbally hit Clu where it hurts most? Can one person be both at the same time? Is there a way to balance it without going too far one way or the other? Maybe that's why I've always had trouble "getting inside" Quorra the way I have done with almost all of the other characters...

Tzigone Wrote:Not for me - I loathe the idea of Quorra going back to the digital world permanently. And I'm very interested in the real-world consequences of everything that happened in Legacy. I'd love to get more real-world than just bookends - though, of course, Grid-time has to be the majority of the movie. But maybe a 70/30 split, if I'm lucky.

I'm not sure there's a compromise that would satisfy us both, then. : /

Since seeing Tron in '82, the heart of the franchise - at least to me - has always been about the "secret world" that exists inside our computers. The idea of a digital realm where the programs we use every day live, fight, love and die captured my imagination. What's happening on the other side of the screen when I run that program? What sort of stories are playing out all around us right now? It's that juxtaposition of our mundane world with a hidden, fantastic one that I find appealing.

I have a few issues with the idea of Quorra running around in the real world. Setting aside my quibbles about the mechanics of it (which I've gone on about before), I have a problem with this because it changes the fundamental nature of the Tron universe moving forward. Once we get into the implications of being able to create people and things from computer code and "beam" them into the real world on demand, we're not talking about our world at all anymore. (And yes, before you say it, I know that Encom et al. don't exist in "our" world. Apart from that, though, culturally and technologically, the "real world" of the Tron universe has always been presented as 'our" world.) At that point, the "real world" of Tron becomes an alternate present, with all the cultural and social changes that kind of technology would unleash. The stories would largely abandon "the secret world inside the computer" in favor of exploring other issues, like the implications of matter transmission or the ethics of creating artificial life forms and their place in human society.

And those are interesting themes to explore, don't get me wrong. They're just not the ones I want to see explored through Tron.

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